Dodge boys never learn

[ducky]

You still think they suck? You mean to tell me a 7k lb truck running low 12s sucks? Duramax with a built trans, tune, and lift pump in the 12s... Not trying to start a fight here, but you should definitely give Diesel Performance a second look! Hear me out... A 4 door 4x4 truck with leather interior and all the comforts of today's vehicles that gets great mileage and all the power you could ask for, you can haul a ton in the bed, drag the race truck to the track then unhook and run consistent 12 second passes... yeah, let me tell you... DIESEL SUCKS! I will agree with you though those Dodge boys just don't get it!

He wasn't talking about a Duramax with built trans, tune and lift pump in the 12s. He was talking about a bunch of tools in College Station with dodges and probably just programmers.

"Not trying to be rude, but your an idiot" <-- Sounds pretty rude doesn't it?

You can't say 'Not trying to start a fight' if your whole reply is aggressive.

[Gob_LLY]

Honestly I am not trying to stir shit, but I am a gear hear through and through, and I appreciate anything that puts some power to the ground... my whole reply was aggressive? hahahaha, didn't know I was dealing with a bunch of thin skinned hippys... I am just being honest... If I hurt anyone's feelings with my last post, they must not have been around the internet for very long!

[RedHeartbeat]

yeah, only because they drive the baddest of the bad. We're fast because we put down over 1000 ft/lbs of tq with our massively heavy engines. It's badass because we can go fast in an 8000+ lb vehicle. Too bad they can't build a lightweight diesel that doesn't require a super heavy frame to support all the weight. Imagine how much fuel they could save. Oh wait, VW has diesels getting 60 mpg even though they can't pull 20,000 lbs but then again when was the last time you saw a diesel truck with a load behind it? Just messing with you guys. Diesel trucks have a place and it is pulling a load. I'd like to have one but I'm not laying out $50,000 to buy a new diesel rig. Maybe I can buy me a Kodiak truck and have a real diesel.

[MudDoc]

yeah, only because they drive the baddest of the bad. We're fast because we put down over 1000 ft/lbs of tq with our massively heavy engines. It's badass because we can go fast in an 8000+ lb vehicle. Too bad they can't build a lightweight diesel that doesn't require a super heavy frame to support all the weight. Imagine how much fuel they could save. Oh wait, VW has diesels getting 60 mpg even though they can't pull 20,000 lbs but then again when was the last time you saw a diesel truck with a load behind it? Just messing with you guys. Diesel trucks have a place and it is pulling a load. I'd like to have one but I'm not laying out $50,000 to buy a new diesel rig. Maybe I can buy me a Kodiak truck and have a real diesel.

I saw what you did thar many times.... but the Kodiak has the same Duramax we have.... but I wouldn't take a '11+ one if you gave it to me.... NO EFI Live support, and that makes me sad, My LMM fk'n scoots for a big ass heavy truck and I can latch onto 20k lbs and tow the fk out of it.

Maybe one day when I want to laydown the scratch for a new air dryer spinny thingy I will go after vets in my 7500+ lbs rig (tool box full of tools too!)

The Modded LSX trucks are badass, I will admit and I want one. I just have a need for a diesel and it makes more sense for me.

[RedHeartbeat]

I saw what you did thar many times.... but the Kodiak has the same Duramax we have.... but I wouldn't take a '11+ one if you gave it to me.... NO EFI Live support, and that makes me sad, My LMM fk'n scoots for a big ass heavy truck and I can latch onto 20k lbs and tow the fk out of it.

Maybe one day when I want to laydown the scratch for a new air dryer spinny thingy I will go after vets in my 7500+ lbs rig (tool box full of tools too!)

The Modded LSX trucks are badass, I will admit and I want one. I just have a need for a diesel and it makes more sense for me.

Believe me, if I had a Kodiak, modding it would be the last thing on my mind. I would be in retirement mode dragging my fifth wheel travel trailer down the highway and joining the rest of the snowbird flock in the south during the winter and pulling up north in the summer. I get a kick out of the big rig drivers drag racing. It's cool to watch the exhibition rail dragsters with the diesel engines in them but still they don't go fast enough to contend with similar vehicles in the gas engine world. It is no comparison to when they threw a pair of turbos on a small block, put it in a funny car running gasoline instead of nitro-methane and beat the pants off a top fuel funny car, only to be banned from competition by the NHRA.

[MudDoc]

Believe me, if I had a Kodiak, modding it would be the last thing on my mind. I would be in retirement mode dragging my fifth wheel travel trailer down the highway and joining the rest of the snowbird flock in the south during the winter and pulling up north in the summer. I get a kick out of the big rig drivers drag racing. It's cool to watch the exhibition rail dragsters with the diesel engines in them but still they don't go fast enough to contend with similar vehicles in the gas engine world. It is no comparison to when they threw a pair of turbos on a small block, put it in a funny car running gasoline instead of nitro-methane and beat the pants off a top fuel funny car, only to be banned from competition by the NHRA.

link to said occurrence so I can LAWL at butthurt nitro-meth guys

[96/chevy/pu]

I don't know for sure but if you put a turbo on a gas engine of the same cubic inch as a diesel and run the same boost, what would power and torque #'s look like from diesel to gas just wondering?

[TDFDiesel]

yeah, only because they drive the baddest of the bad. We're fast because we put down over 1000 ft/lbs of tq with our massively heavy engines. It's badass because we can go fast in an 8000+ lb vehicle. Too bad they can't build a lightweight diesel that doesn't require a super heavy frame to support all the weight. Imagine how much fuel they could save. Oh wait, VW has diesels getting 60 mpg even though they can't pull 20,000 lbs but then again when was the last time you saw a diesel truck with a load behind it? Just messing with you guys. Diesel trucks have a place and it is pulling a load. I'd like to have one but I'm not laying out $50,000 to buy a new diesel rig. Maybe I can buy me a Kodiak truck and have a real diesel.

I saw what you did thar many times.... but the Kodiak has the same Duramax we have.... but I wouldn't take a '11+ one if you gave it to me.... NO EFI Live support, and that makes me sad, My LMM fk'n scoots for a big ass heavy truck and I can latch onto 20k lbs and tow the fk out of it.

Maybe one day when I want to laydown the scratch for a new air dryer spinny thingy I will go after vets in my 7500+ lbs rig (tool box full of tools too!)

The Modded LSX trucks are badass, I will admit and I want one. I just have a need for a diesel and it makes more sense for me.

Be like Andrew and run 11s with 37" tires, haha...

I don't know for sure but if you put a turbo on a gas engine of the same cubic inch as a diesel and run the same boost, what would power and torque #'s look like from diesel to gas just wondering?

Very different.

[MudDoc]

I don't know for sure but if you put a turbo on a gas engine of the same cubic inch as a diesel and run the same boost, what would power and torque #'s look like from diesel to gas just wondering?

You would surely be out of MAP very quickly, Gassers for the most part can run much larger turbos than a diesel and at the same time have less gain due to powerband and spooling.

With a Diesel you can run a somewhat larger than stock charger and provided you have the fuel to spool can see HUGE gains on the pwr end... not so much on gassers.

But all in all turbo's are badass anyways