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    What all needs to be done to switch from a drive by wire to a drive by cable throttle body?

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mkabwe &#064; Oct 25 2006, 04&#58;25 PM) [snapback]71143[/snapback]</div>
    What all needs to be done to switch from a drive by wire to a drive by cable throttle body? [/b]
    Not much really. Pick up a conventional throttle body on Ebay or elsewhere, get a throttle cable bracket from the Dealer or fabricate one your self. Find a throttle cable that will work. (I&#39;ve heard some guys use Caprice/Impala cables) I got a Lokar cable off Ebay that works good. And then depending on what you are putting the engine in, you&#39;ll need a throttle pedal that will accept a cable. What I am not sure of is if you need to have the PCM reprogrammed also. I started mine up the first time with the original program (drive by wire) and a cable operated throttle body and it idled well enough but I later sent my PCM out for other things and I don&#39;t know if my tuner made changes to accomodate the change in throttle bodys....

    If I had all the matching parts I would have stuck with the drive by wire (makes cruise control real easy) but I had a 2003 throttle body and 2002 pedal and TAC unit and the two years don&#39;t play well together.... Do you have any parts you&#39;d like to get rid of? I know somebody who could use a 2001/2002 drive by wire throttle body or a 2003 pedal and TAC.....

    1965 C-10 shortbed stepside, 2003 5.3/4L60E conversion. Power steering, tilt wheel, power front disc brakes, 3.73 one wheel peel, 2.5/4 inch drop, relocated fuel tank and battery, 2002 Silverado buckets and console. Swap Pics
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    dont think the conversion will require any PCM work. its a manual system without the DBW.

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    I in the planning stages right now, but I have the engine and transmission setting in the yard. Its a 2002 Tahoe 5.3 that I&#39;m putting in a 1958 Chevy Truck.

    What year drive by cable throttle body should I look for?

    Thanks for the info I know I will have many more questions when I start the installation.

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mkabwe &#064; Oct 25 2006, 07&#58;24 PM) [snapback]71162[/snapback]</div>
    I in the planning stages right now, but I have the engine and transmission setting in the yard. Its a 2002 Tahoe 5.3 that I&#39;m putting in a 1958 Chevy Truck.

    Thanks for the info I know I will have many more questions when I start the installation.
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    ill try to look up the info on this conversion, but it may take a while. im not sure if its PCM controlled, but seems like it wouldnt matter since it would be manually controlled after that.

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    If you are getting a tuned PCM, get your tuner to install the program for a cable driven tune. removing the DBW from the PCM requires no changes to the wiring harness that I know of. It&#39;s as simple as replacing the electronic throttle body with a cable driven unit. The truck cable is plenty long for almost any application.
    See my truck data in the "My Garage" section here... http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/my-ga...tml#post191709

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    I can verify that no harness changes are required to convert from drive by wire. Your swap is identical to mine. You can pick up a new 2002 cable operated throttle body on ebay for around &#036;75. Used for even less.

    1965 C-10 shortbed stepside, 2003 5.3/4L60E conversion. Power steering, tilt wheel, power front disc brakes, 3.73 one wheel peel, 2.5/4 inch drop, relocated fuel tank and battery, 2002 Silverado buckets and console. Swap Pics
    1968 Camaro 95LT1/4L60E lots o' mods Web Page
    1961 Corvette project.......... C-4 suspension and brakes, 02 LS1/T-56 awaiting installation Pics

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kwkenuf &#064; Oct 25 2006, 05&#58;51 PM) [snapback]71173[/snapback]</div>
    I can verify that no harness changes are required to convert from drive by wire. Your swap is identical to mine. You can pick up a new 2002 cable operated throttle body on ebay for around &#036;75. Used for even less.
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    Thanks for the info man. kwkenuf I will be having many questions for you because our swaps are the same. How do you like the engine in your truck? I have a 97 454 in my 55 Sedan and I love it. Thats what made me want to go with a modern engine in the truck also. That and I got the engine, trans, and wiring and everything for 1100 bucks from a friend of mine. This thing only had 25000 miles on it.

    You guys are great I will start searching for a throttle body now. I just wanted a heads up of what to expect.

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mkabwe &#064; Oct 26 2006, 09&#58;09 AM) [snapback]71239[/snapback]</div>


    Thanks for the info man. kwkenuf I will be having many questions for you because our swaps are the same. How do you like the engine in your truck? I have a 97 454 in my 55 Sedan and I love it. Thats what made me want to go with a modern engine in the truck also. That and I got the engine, trans, and wiring and everything for 1100 bucks from a friend of mine. This thing only had 25000 miles on it.

    You guys are great I will start searching for a throttle body now. I just wanted a heads up of what to expect. [/b]
    How do I like my engine swap? Fanfriggin&#39;tastic&#33; Night and day performance difference from the Gen I 350 that I pulled out... Immediate starts, great low end torque and the addition of overdrive has really changed the personality of my truck for the better. You will not be disappointed&#33; Oh, and you got a good deal on your drivetrain.... Lots of money left over for mods&#33;


    1965 C-10 shortbed stepside, 2003 5.3/4L60E conversion. Power steering, tilt wheel, power front disc brakes, 3.73 one wheel peel, 2.5/4 inch drop, relocated fuel tank and battery, 2002 Silverado buckets and console. Swap Pics
    1968 Camaro 95LT1/4L60E lots o' mods Web Page
    1961 Corvette project.......... C-4 suspension and brakes, 02 LS1/T-56 awaiting installation Pics

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mkabwe &#064; Oct 26 2006, 11&#58;09 AM) [snapback]71239[/snapback]</div>
    Thanks for the info man. kwkenuf I will be having many questions for you because our swaps are the same. How do you like the engine in your truck? I have a 97 454 in my 55 Sedan and I love it. Thats what made me want to go with a modern engine in the truck also. That and I got the engine, trans, and wiring and everything for 1100 bucks from a friend of mine. This thing only had 25000 miles on it.

    You guys are great I will start searching for a throttle body now. I just wanted a heads up of what to expect.
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    damn, thats a great deal on that engine and tranny. i payed 1700 for my 6.0(engine, pcm, harness) now im looking for a tranny to go behind it. i think if i found all that for 1100 i might have passed on the 6.0, maybe.

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