Fords Answer for the ZR1 Camaro....

[George C]

Those are modern vehicles they aren't considered muscle

[bangbangskeetskeet]

If Greg's and Quik's definition is correct, then the CTSV and the G8 are considered muscle cars, yes? If so, then i completely agree with boosted. I fell in love with the G8 once i first read about it. Always been more into pontiac cars than chevy for some reason, except for the vette of course.

I LOVE the G8. I've been telling my girl about them for 6 months and I think I finally got her hooked. She said once she gets a Yukon and we can sell her pos dodge I can buy a G8 for my daily.

[Mangled03gmc]

new camaros are almost identical to the challenger. hell have the same floor pans and even quarters. I prefer the mustangs and have preferred them. Just that theyve been down on power for sometime now. When the coyote was released it just embarrassed the ls3 from the factory. Gm ruined the camaro by trying to make it to much like a vette. IRS doesnt belong in a car that was intended for straightline performance.

Have to agree.. While some of the maros look good, it is only after alot of beauty mods.. They went to much into the looks of that car.. I can remember seeing the sketch of it in the beg, it looked almost identical to the 69, with tasteful subtle changes..

[cjriojas]

Those are modern vehicles they aren't considered muscle

Modern muscle, my friend. They still exist and perform extremely well in both main categories.

I LOVE the G8. I've been telling my girl about them for 6 months and I think I finally got her hooked. She said once she gets a Yukon and we can sell her pos dodge I can buy a G8 for my daily.

Hell Yea, if anything happened to my truck i would def get a G8.

[RedHeartbeat]

if someone considered them muscle cars they would be in the compact catagory due to their small size and being of a unibody design.

[Botlfed]

I was trying to think of a muscle car that was made after the 70s, only thing that comes to mind, is the Grand National even though its a sixxer, id kill to have one.

[Frenchy]

So muscle cars have to have a full frame? Looks like all the Mopars are out then. But yeah that's my definition too, big enough a big block was pretty much mandatory.

[bangbangskeetskeet]

I was trying to think of a muscle car that was made after the 70s, only thing that comes to mind, is the Grand National even though its a sixxer, id kill to have one.

You and me both man. If I could find a GNx for a decent price I would jump all over it.

A local shop that does mostly late model vette stuff had 3 BADASS GNx's in there show room last time I was there. One was the owners...single turbo v6 running mid 10's...one was a former AZ Cardinals running back...basically stock, just refreshed...and one was a customers....bored/stroked v6 with twins, he was saying there shake down passes were 9.3's-9.5's. I was in love.

[George C]

You and me both man. If I could find a GNx for a decent price I would jump all over it.

A local shop that does mostly late model vette stuff had 3 BADASS GNx's in there show room last time I was there. One was the owners...single turbo v6 running mid 10's...one was a former AZ Cardinals running back...basically stock, just refreshed...and one was a customers....bored/stroked v6 with twins, he was saying there shake down passes were 9.3's-9.5's. I was in love.

Are you sure they were the ultra rare GNXs? Or just grand nationals? Or WE4 models?

[kerrige]

I saw them in person all true GNX's it was amazing.