Tundra vs Silverado debate

[TvsQuez]

u mean they didnt bother wit it or u didnt bother??

I mean, we raced and it wasn't even fair. When we got to the next light, the guy in the tundra asked what i had in it etc...Said that things got some power, f that. Titan just drove into the left turn lane.

[scottyd2506]

I mean, we raced and it wasn't even fair. When we got to the next light, the guy in the tundra asked what i had in it etc...Said that things got some power, f that. Titan just drove into the left turn lane.

Good kills dude.. teach em not to **** around with a Chevy!!!

[TvsQuez]

I wanna catch up with one of those bumble bees around town. Anyone else racing any?

[jetmech]

I just read the title of thread, nothing more and I will just say this. That talked up "i-force" V8 in the Tundra is a fairly powerful engine but Chevy has been producing quality V8's for decades and they have only improved over the years. Sure, Toyota 4 and 6 cylinder engines have incredible longevity but I doubt that same longevity can simply trasfer to their new V8's just because their toy car engines last a long time. My truck is living proof of time-tested, tried and true Chevy engines and how they can make incredible power, take the abuse, and keep on running strong

[country_3030]

Okay, How did I miss this tread till now??

First off I work at a Toyota dealership and drive a Chevrolet. The Tundra is a great truck with a nice amount of power from the factory. Personally I think what holds back Toyota aftermarket is the lack of a way to tune them. Toyota will not even let the dealerships know how the computers work table wise. We have to call a tech center in California and fill out forms in order to fill out the form to order a new calibration file. Then all we can do is flash the new file into the vehicle. NO Calibration viewer or modifier available. By the way this all cost about $600 a flash. Heck even a lot of the Toyota Supra guys have to run aftermarket PCM. It is very unlikely to see a I Force 5.7 transplant due to the 15 integrated computers that have to communicate in order to keep it running and all systems friendly with each other.

Chevrolet will always supply a way to tune their vehicles and aftermarket parts. Don't forget that the big three grew up on racing and competing with time slips.

[DamnYankee]

Just ask Moze... Dispicable

wow, thanks

[badseed91]

Wow seriously? I thought this was cleared up a long time ago. put 4.30's in a single cab with a tuned 5.3 and a 6 speed transmission I bet the outcome will be a lot closer with less power from the gm. Problem isGM doesnt build that truck and people are aguing about a truck that GM doesnt make. Gm does however make an extended cab 6.2 with that out dated pushrod design. A crew cab denali out runs a crew cab tundra and does it with a gear ratio that is almost one whole number higher and also with 20's. That may be a different story however, after a quarter mile on out to a full mile. Its a lot easier to argue using like trucks.

I would imagine a comparable ls has a lot more torque under the curve and a more useable rev range than the toyota. It has been proven in the past that ohc produces great peak numbers but push rod has it beat with more useable power under the curve. Has anyone ever wondered why the tundra has 4.30 gears? I would imagine its because the 32 valve v-8 has crap for really low end torque. Toyota tried to build a do all truck and for the most part they accomplished that, and gave american manufacturers a challenge. Anyone can build a 32 valve v-8 (except maybe chrysler) that makes a ton of power which is usually a lot higher in the rev range and put 4.30 gears to compensate.

In my opinion GM has perfected the pushrod v-8 engine and has proved that they can build a motor that is just as efficient as OHC and more dependable.

I dont know who said it but I would hope that a set of 4 valve heads could out flow a set of gm 2 valve heads who would argue that? Im sure if GM wanted they could design a 4 valve head with dohc vvt v-8 that would destroy anything on the street, Or just borrow a northstar engine and tweek it a bit. But why do that when you already have an engine that is damn near perfect and if you want more power all you have to do is do a little head work and be done with it?

It really says something when people who own other brands are envious of your truck and the way it performs. Ford people have been envious ever since ford built the POS 3 valve triton which produced more power and torque than the 5.3 and the gm still blew its doors off! Even hemi owners are slightly envious. I think GM has stretched the limits for a single cam push rod v-8 far beyond what it was ever designed to do and did a damn good job of it. I would think that if GM was to build a 4 valve v-8 they would do the same. Im pretty sure the next generation of gm v-8's will have more than one cam and most definately sport VVT. GM is no punk Toyota may have braging rights when it comes to a single cab but how many of those do you see everyday. GM isnt going to put any more money into testing and certifying a truck configuration they dont make a lot of money off of. thats probably why the 6.2 isnt available in a single cab. If you want the big motor you have to un-ass the money for a bigger truck.

Who is making the most powerful truck on the market right now? GGGGGGMMMM!