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    Put a heli-coil in it. the thread will be stronger than stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedHeartbeat View Post
    Put a heli-coil in it. the thread will be stronger than stock.
    +1.

    2000 ECSB 6.0L
    TORQUER V2 CAM ● COMP 918's ● 7.4 HARDENED PUSHRODS ● K&N SERIES 77 CAI ● 80mm BBK ●PACESETTER LT HEADERS AND 3'' ORY ● SUPER 40 FLOW ● 3000 STALL ● 4.10s ● BUILT 80e ● VORTEC PERFORMANCE TUNE ● MSD 8.5mm PLUG WIRES● ELEC. CUTOUT ● UD & ALT PULLEYS ● FLEX-A-LITE E-FANS ● 22" CENTERLINE STINGRAY III's ● LUND FIBERGLASS TONNEAU ● 2" LEVELING SHACKLES ● 12K HID LOWS & FOGS ● LEDs ● DEBADGED ● WHITE-FACED ESCALADE GAUGES ● KICKER 450.1 ● 2-CVR 10's ● DS60's ● K693's

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    What is a heli-coil and how do you put one in?

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    JUST from what I can tell I would need to run a larger bolt in it. I dont mean it messed the threads up. I mean it literally pulled the threads out of it. The cam I am running has a power range to 6800. I wasnt going to shift out till then. All sub-correct fixes seem like it wouldnt possibly hold. I dont know how much stress is on them but at 6800 with a 125 shot I want it to be STOUT.
    Also I couldnt tell how far down the hole went. Is it all the way into the cylinder? If thats the case If tapped etc Id still need to pull the head and make sure all debris is cleaned out correct? So a helicoil would also end with me pullin the head off

    06 Intimidator SS- Tuned, CAI -DD
    03 Silverado- Last incarnation 13.6... RIP
    Ls1, Pnp heads, Polluter camshaft, spray, 4k stall on the way
    "Seize the day like you seize your noodle" - Shin Chan

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    I vote heli coil as well. Itll hold.
    2000 Silverado ECSB- 5.3 CAI, Pacesetter LTs, ORY- Pipe, Magnaflow XL, E-fan, Ported T/B , Nelson Tuned, Built 4l60e, Circle D Stall, 3.42s G80, 2-4 Drop, Hertz Highs, Rockford 501s

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    helicoil is a thread wire tube insert. You tap the hole to the same size pitch but larger in diameter and then thread the coil into the larger hole. The wire takes up the difference in size. These things have been in use from like the 50s and are the preferred method the aluminum thread repair and to increase the strength of a thread in soft materials.

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    Unless your head is ported then the hole is a blind hole. To install the coil you drill it out to the specified size and then tap the hole with the helicoil tap and screw the new insert in. You may have to thread two of them in back to back to completely cover the length of the hole. I repair things like this all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Show&Go View Post
    ...Id still need to pull the head and make sure all debris is cleaned out correct? So a helicoil would also end with me pullin the head off
    Rocker bolts don't go all the way through. Unless the rocker was on the exhaust side of #4 or #8, you shouldn't have to remove the head.

    2000 ECSB 6.0L
    TORQUER V2 CAM ● COMP 918's ● 7.4 HARDENED PUSHRODS ● K&N SERIES 77 CAI ● 80mm BBK ●PACESETTER LT HEADERS AND 3'' ORY ● SUPER 40 FLOW ● 3000 STALL ● 4.10s ● BUILT 80e ● VORTEC PERFORMANCE TUNE ● MSD 8.5mm PLUG WIRES● ELEC. CUTOUT ● UD & ALT PULLEYS ● FLEX-A-LITE E-FANS ● 22" CENTERLINE STINGRAY III's ● LUND FIBERGLASS TONNEAU ● 2" LEVELING SHACKLES ● 12K HID LOWS & FOGS ● LEDs ● DEBADGED ● WHITE-FACED ESCALADE GAUGES ● KICKER 450.1 ● 2-CVR 10's ● DS60's ● K693's

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    Just fix it and quit making excuses cuz your slow....lol
    2000 Silverado ECSB- 5.3 CAI, Pacesetter LTs, ORY- Pipe, Magnaflow XL, E-fan, Ported T/B , Nelson Tuned, Built 4l60e, Circle D Stall, 3.42s G80, 2-4 Drop, Hertz Highs, Rockford 501s

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    it will hold..... some race engine builders heli-coil all bolt holes on alum. blocks for added strength

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