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[dirt track racer 81]

I posted what danny posted on ptnet and guy over there tried that and picked up 3/10s and 3 mph. its all in the timing, have it tuned right and no detenation and your good to go..monte smith knows what hes doin or he wouldnt be were he is now. search him on yellowbullet.com

[sprayedenali]

i also dont have the right gauges to be pushing my system to its limits...
say i had everything i really should have then id be more comfortable leaning it out a little, but since i have no idea what my motor is doing other than A/F ratio, ill play it safe for now. i dont want to lean it out too much, pick up alot of knock and not realize it until its too late...

[midevil1]

I have built a few A6's and tuned probably 100 on HP. 25 of those trannies are holding over 550rwhp with STOCK parts. I told you to let me tune the tranny...... I know that tranny in and out. 3 to 5 10ths with a REAL tranny tune. The A6 is stout with the right programming.

[sprayedenali]

well, according to what i can come up with im making over 700 lb/ft of torque when i leave the line with the 150 shot, why does that make you say im pushing my stock truck too hard?!?!?

i know im pushing it.... but its too addicting to just settle with going slow!

[zeake]

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[GasGuzzler]

11 AFR is very rich to me and the 6L trans will hold a lot but I'm not sure I'd wanna make a paperweight out of an $8K engine trying to push a 5500 pound $45K daily driver into the 12's. Then again, I'm conservative.

[sprayedenali]

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this was Allen's insight into the shifting issue....

what the heck does it mean?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[midevil1]

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this was Allen's insight into the shifting issue....

what the heck does it mean?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I guess he is talking about a shift time cell or an interia adder cell. Either way the wrong numbers are in it.....I tuned a 08 Escalade AWD turbo making a true 630awhp and I don't recall the TQ. You are not pushing the tranny to it's limits.....your tune is. I don't doubt Allen's tuning of your engine, but the tranny isn't even close and I haven't seen the file. By no means is this a rip on Allen. I have redone tunes for Livernois, so it's not a big deal. The A6 is a VERY advanced tranny and to tune one correctly(long, happy life) you need to completely understand the Electrical and HYD sides of this tranny. Seen a few C6's with burnt up "PRO" tuned trannies.

[farmtruc]

.... You are not pushing the tranny to it's limits.....your tune is. I don't doubt Allen's tuning of your engine, but the tranny isn't even close and I haven't seen the file. By no means is this a rip on Allen....

If you haven't seen the tune/file, then how can you say the trans tune isn't even close and that I didn't tune it correctly???
I do take it as an attack and you have no idea why his trans is doing this, or if it's related, lol. All you're doing is assuming.
If you knew why his truck was doing that, you'd post it and tell us why, not say "let me tune the trans" and then start poking around in there questioning everything that has been changed.
If you can fix it, why don't you just tell him what is wrong since you understand every working of the A6?

I think it's hilarious when someone asks or questions the tune and why it's doing a particular thing, like mitch's is.
Ya, its' probably the tune, what I did was tune it so when nitrous was sprayed, it has this issue lol.
I will admit, tuning does cause issues once in a while, but stuff like this isn't tuned for. Meaning, a table wasn't changed so that this issues is there.
More than likely, it's an issue that nobody has run across and there is usually a table that is eventually identified by hptuners that allows us to fix the issue.
Just like when someone asks, "can you check the tune and see if my trans tables are right, my trans is slipping" wth! How about the clutches are burned up and they aren't holding.

Being a good tuner doesn't mean owning the same type of truck, or tuning a high hp vehicle. If a tuner out there has tuned literally 1,000's of files, don't you think he's probably learned a thing or two?

How do you know I don't understand the workings of a A6?

The only thing I agree with you on is most big shops out there tune incorrectly, that is true and you'd be surprised how many do it. I've seen almost all the big name shop tunes out there.
Hell, I'm probably considered a bad tuner by other shops as well.

I've been tuning the A6 since the ability was given to us and they all run great, and none of them have burned up!

The 6 speed is a more advanced transmission, but they all work the same, just some have more features than others.
You should know this as well, 90% of those tables in the trans cal aren't even used by tuners.
Tuning a trans isn't rocket science or magic, it's straight forward.
You basically have line pressure, shift points and TM.
What else is there?

Now to answer the question on why I think your truck is doing this mitch;
I believe your truck is reaching an acceleration limit, has nothing to do with the way the trans is tuned.
Yes, it started happening after the tune, but did you ever spray on the stock trans/engine calibration? NO, and I don't recommend it, so everything you do or mod is after the tune.

[midevil1]

If you haven't seen the tune/file, then how can you say the trans tune isn't even close and that I didn't tune it correctly???
I do take it as an attack and you have no idea why his trans is doing this, or if it's related, lol. All you're doing is assuming.
If you knew why his truck was doing that, you'd post it and tell us why, not say "let me tune the trans" and then start poking around in there questioning everything that has been changed.
If you can fix it, why don't you just tell him what is wrong since you understand every working of the A6?

I think it's hilarious when someone asks or questions the tune and why it's doing a particular thing, like mitch's is.
Ya, its' probably the tune, what I did was tune it so when nitrous was sprayed, it has this issue lol.
I will admit, tuning does cause issues once in a while, but stuff like this isn't tuned for. Meaning, a table wasn't changed so that this issues is there.
More than likely, it's an issue that nobody has run across and there is usually a table that is eventually identified by hptuners that allows us to fix the issue.
Just like when someone asks, "can you check the tune and see if my trans tables are right, my trans is slipping" wth! How about the clutches are burned up and they aren't holding.

Being a good tuner doesn't mean owning the same type of truck, or tuning a high hp vehicle. If a tuner out there has tuned literally 1,000's of files, don't you think he's probably learned a thing or two?

How do you know I don't understand the workings of a A6?

The only thing I agree with you on is most big shops out there tune incorrectly, that is true and you'd be surprised how many do it. I've seen almost all the big name shop tunes out there.
Hell, I'm probably considered a bad tuner by other shops as well.

I've been tuning the A6 since the ability was given to us and they all run great, and none of them have burned up!

The 6 speed is a more advanced transmission, but they all work the same, just some have more features than others.
You should know this as well, 90% of those tables in the trans cal aren't even used by tuners.
Tuning a trans isn't rocket science or magic, it's straight forward.
You basically have line pressure, shift points and TM.
What else is there?

Now to answer the question on why I think your truck is doing this mitch;
I believe your truck is reaching an acceleration limit, has nothing to do with the way the trans is tuned.
Yes, it started happening after the tune, but did you ever spray on the stock trans/engine calibration? NO, and I don't recommend it, so everything you do or mod is after the tune.

I have been in the build and design business of trannies for 15 years. I build trannies that cost $8,000 to $80,000, so I guess their owners trust that I know what I am doing..LOL. Certs. a mile long.

Swallow your pride and get a tranny tuning class. This is not a 4lcrape series tranny. What is a acceleration limit? His powerband? His Max MPH? So.....he is only running those times because of a lack of horsepower? The A6 WILL DO "anything" you tell it too. GOOD or BAD.

I use all the tables in the A6 because I know them and understand them. Mitch WILL hurt his tranny, if he hasn't already if that is the way you were thinking when you tuned it.

The A6 doesn't work the same as any of GM's previous RWD vehicles. It shares similarities with the 6T series trannies. It doesn't use the same electrical or hyd signals.

Take this how you want to Allen, but you are barely treading water with the A6 from what you have said. I don't care 1 way or the other. You have a reputation and shop to stand up for and I do this for sheer pleasure of the owner of the vehicle.

Let's run his truck at the track with your tranny tune and then mine and see whats what.

I am busy, so response can be slowwwwwwwwwwww.