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Thread: Some interesting reading..."Imports" vs. "Domestics"

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjriojas View Post
    to anyone that cant see this in an economically correct way:

    The owners of Nissan, Toyota, etc are all based out of Japan. This means that all the paper pushers, engineers, and chief staff members are in japan. Thats where the primary percentage of profits ends up. Not in the hands of the american people. Another thing, Nissan's biggest sellers only use 55% U.S. made parts. The list also states only the percentage of parts, not which parts. For all we know, they could just be using the nuts, bolts and various small pieces made here.

    Dont get me wrong, i believe that competition is the most important part of the vehicle market. Its what drives companies to make the best products. However, anyone who believes that a stronger foreign market in the U.S. does not have a significant negative impact on our economy is sadly mistaken.

    Well said Chris! I am amazed...

    Back in 1994, CAFE started classifying vehicles as import and domestic by where the actual vehicle was made. Vehicles made and produced in the United States, regardless of brand, are considered domestic, while vehicles produced outside the United States are considered imported.

    However, many of us view a Toyota vehicle made in Ohio, a Nissan built in Kentucky, or a Mercedes-Benz vehicle made in Alabama as an import, while others view a Pontiac vehicle made in Australia as a domestic vehicle. This perception is due to the respective brands' longstanding association with their parent countries: Nissan with Japan, Audi with Germany, and Chevy with the United States.

    To clear this obscurity, whether a vehicle can be labeled import or domestic can be easily determined. A vehicle must have labels specifying their percentage value of U.S./Canadian parts content, the country of assembly, and countries of origin of the engine and transmission. These are typically part of, or adjacent, to the vehicle's Monroney sticker. Each vehicle sold in the US carries a VIN, and the VIN identifies the vehicle's country of manufacture and what company made the vehicle. Vehicles manufactured in the US have VINs beginning with the numbers 1, 4, and 5 — regardless of where the company is based. Thus, a Toyota Camry made in the U.S. will have a 1, 4 or 5 at the start of its VIN, while one imported from Japan will begin with the letter J. Actually, ASE is the entity responsible for assigning the three-digit "World Manufacturer Identifier" that begins the VIN label. The VIN is assigned according to the dirt the plant's built on, not the headquarters of the company.

    With all of this said, a Toyota Camry can be classified as a domestic vehicle, but as Chris and George have stated, the large number of profits do return to the country of origin. Toyota and Nissan, among others, do build plants and design studios here in the US, which puts their profit dollars back into the US economy, but the main portion of monies made goes back to Japan. The technical data I spoke of above classifies the individual VEHICLE, not the manufacturer as a whole. Bottom line, the manufacturer is based in a certain country, but an individual vehicle may be classified as domestic or import by CAFE here in the US.

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    quit trying to justify your Nissan Moze!!!!!!
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    Actually in pretty much all other realms of manufacturing and assembly, the item for sale must have ALL resources and parts, as well as labor originate from the US to be able to advertise as "made in the USA". If those were the rules on vehicles, there would be NONE that would fit under that umbrella and the closest to that would be "foreign" makes.

    The money earned by non-union "foreign" car maker employees in total is more than the profit sent to Japan so it's pretty obvious that even saying Nissan and Toyota are foreign because of profit is not well thought out. Those non-union manufacturer workers mean more to me than those working for the UAW or those accepting profits overseas.

    The point is not that Nissan or Toyota is better or even more American. The point is they make a slightly greater positive impact overall on the tits-up US economy than does any "domestic" carmaker. That is a fact.

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    ^^^^How is that even true?! Japan also has plants that manufacture cars. There are more employees working for foreign companies in the homeland country than anywhere else. And all the large salary makers are in their homelands.
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    Damn it Moze look what you've done
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    oh well, love my bowties. if it dosnt have a gm stamp it wont be in my garage. someone somewhere will enjoy my $$
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    Quote Originally Posted by st8kfinger View Post
    oh well, love my bowties. if it dosnt have a gm stamp it wont be in my garage. someone somewhere will enjoy my $$
    Amen brother
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    Quote Originally Posted by sleeper1500 View Post
    Damn it Moze look what you've done

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    bit of trivia..
    by Tyler's definition, the Silverado SS and the GMC Sierra are Imports.
    They are made in Canada.. I know mine was on May 13, 2003
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