would there be any realy gains or reason to buy one and run it?
would there be any realy gains or reason to buy one and run it?
you would be paying mostly for the brand name they all work the same generally and i think the plus to having a 160* stat is to allow the tuner to pull more timing or something in your tune.
The 160 t-stat allows your motor to run at cooler temps. And we all know what the main enemy any engine deals with when it comes to creating power??? Yes, very good class--its HEAT. The only thing the 160*t-stat does is open up sooner. The motor can run better when cooler, but nothing is really beneficial unless you have cooler IATs. Sure, the cooler underhood temps you have should drop your IATs, but the 160* t-stat needs to work in conjunction with a CAI, efans, and a tune.
When GM went with the LS1, they beefed up the motor's components over the SBC design in order to allow the motor to run at higher operating temps--allowing the motor to comply with emissions better. With the EGR and PCV systems, the motor would pretty much burn off all gasses either the first or second time through the combustion cycle. Yes, its better for emissions--but not good for overall performance. This is why people run a 160* t-stat, 40k tranny coolers, e-fans, catch cans, and eliminate the EGR.
2000 ECSB 6.0L
TORQUER V2 CAM ● COMP 918's ● 7.4 HARDENED PUSHRODS ● K&N SERIES 77 CAI ● 80mm BBK ●PACESETTER LT HEADERS AND 3'' ORY ● SUPER 40 FLOW ● 3000 STALL ● 4.10s ● BUILT 80e ● VORTEC PERFORMANCE TUNE ● MSD 8.5mm PLUG WIRES● ELEC. CUTOUT ● UD & ALT PULLEYS ● FLEX-A-LITE E-FANS ● 22" CENTERLINE STINGRAY III's ● LUND FIBERGLASS TONNEAU ● 2" LEVELING SHACKLES ● 12K HID LOWS & FOGS ● LEDs ● DEBADGED ● WHITE-FACED ESCALADE GAUGES ● KICKER 450.1 ● 2-CVR 10's ● DS60's ● K693's
without a tune, you'll stay in open loop, and lose power/gas mileage.
With a tune, there are a few benefits.
blown transmissions are about as useful as 97% of the guys on this forum
2000 ECSB 6.0L
TORQUER V2 CAM ● COMP 918's ● 7.4 HARDENED PUSHRODS ● K&N SERIES 77 CAI ● 80mm BBK ●PACESETTER LT HEADERS AND 3'' ORY ● SUPER 40 FLOW ● 3000 STALL ● 4.10s ● BUILT 80e ● VORTEC PERFORMANCE TUNE ● MSD 8.5mm PLUG WIRES● ELEC. CUTOUT ● UD & ALT PULLEYS ● FLEX-A-LITE E-FANS ● 22" CENTERLINE STINGRAY III's ● LUND FIBERGLASS TONNEAU ● 2" LEVELING SHACKLES ● 12K HID LOWS & FOGS ● LEDs ● DEBADGED ● WHITE-FACED ESCALADE GAUGES ● KICKER 450.1 ● 2-CVR 10's ● DS60's ● K693's
Thanks guys answered my question. Is even worth getting a hand tuner or don't waste my money and have a shop do it?
for the price your gonna pay for a hand tuner you can find a very reputable person that can give you a street tune. (usually for less) stay away from hand helds!
oh or you can just get a mail order tune from nelson or something.
Try going here... Nelson Performance - Performance without Sacrificing Drivability
Great people, excellent customer service and they have quite the following/reputation.
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