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    first post guys ,dont beat me up ! my question is i called allen and got a tune i ordered a 93 octane w/ amild cam bassically,the motor was a swap from a 4.8 to a 6.0lq4 ,when i spoke to you i said id at least like it to beat my wifes stock escalade .youre response was that shouldnt be a problem w/this 93 tune .so i put in youre tune ,granted i only had idle issues as far as ii know.problem solved runs great thanks for the promptness overnight by the way.but what my real question is here is how do iknow what i should expect .it runs great dont get me wrong but it just seems kinda stock ,nothing really jumps out noticeably for me it definately wont even touch my wifes esc. except i can pull 56 5800 rpm now im not really sure what the esc pulls for shift points.my throttle response is ok not as responsive as i would of liked .but i dont really know what im supposed to expect out of such a magician as you .i dont have any detonation i always run 93 so i dont know the diff,im supposed to .what all should i be expecting from youre 93 tune .this is my first lq4 in my pickup and my first proff. tune .so please dont take this in any way as sarcasm i just dont know if i should ask for more power,response rpm,etc.or do i just trust that you gave me max potential for my motor and let it be .we all want more power thats the whole chase here isnt it.thanks for any responses and looking forward to hearing from you allen ,or any opinions ,at least helpfull ones anyway .remember im a newbie on here guys dont beat me up.
    mods:2004 sierra ext sb,20s ,big brake kit w,hawk pads,air bagged,2006 6.0 lq4 swap,vortec supercharged10psi, air to water intercooled w/ dual electric fans on it ,snow meth injection kit,60lbers, e-fans ,big radiator swap ,cam 218 /222 548/550 comp .hardened prs .1.85 comp roller rockers ,guideplates ,crane double springs,trans 4l65e built .pacesetter l/ts true duals w/x pipe and magnaflows,14 bolt rearend swap ,3.73s,aroemotive fuel pump system w/elec.fuel controller and bypass regulator a/n fittings, taylor 10.5s interceptor gauge,aem w/b a/f ,autometer boost/vac NELSON 93 OCTANE TUNED .

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    Nice first post. Welcome.

    How long has the tune been running in the truck? Give it a little while to learn.
    See my truck data in the "My Garage" section here... http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/my-ga...tml#post191709

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    3 weeks or so
    mods:2004 sierra ext sb,20s ,big brake kit w,hawk pads,air bagged,2006 6.0 lq4 swap,vortec supercharged10psi, air to water intercooled w/ dual electric fans on it ,snow meth injection kit,60lbers, e-fans ,big radiator swap ,cam 218 /222 548/550 comp .hardened prs .1.85 comp roller rockers ,guideplates ,crane double springs,trans 4l65e built .pacesetter l/ts true duals w/x pipe and magnaflows,14 bolt rearend swap ,3.73s,aroemotive fuel pump system w/elec.fuel controller and bypass regulator a/n fittings, taylor 10.5s interceptor gauge,aem w/b a/f ,autometer boost/vac NELSON 93 OCTANE TUNED .

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    What did you put the engine into? Gears? Transmission? How heavy is it? What size tires? Approx weight? Stall convertor?
    See my truck data in the "My Garage" section here... http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/my-ga...tml#post191709

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    04 sierra ecsb stock everything except cam and cai built 4l60e.the reason im wondering if i should be tweaking anything now yhat id like better is that im installing a s/c next weekend and i know iv got to get a new tune then ,ya know?another words i want max potential before i s/c it so i see diff in s/cin it .i dont want to just put the s/c on it and go wow ,i want to know i had it at max pot before so i feel better about the s/c addind correct h/p .sounds more diff,than i mean.i did the swap to 6.0 blind so i dont know what the tune even did for me besides idles better.sorry about the confusion

    oh i do have 285 20s on it .
    mods:2004 sierra ext sb,20s ,big brake kit w,hawk pads,air bagged,2006 6.0 lq4 swap,vortec supercharged10psi, air to water intercooled w/ dual electric fans on it ,snow meth injection kit,60lbers, e-fans ,big radiator swap ,cam 218 /222 548/550 comp .hardened prs .1.85 comp roller rockers ,guideplates ,crane double springs,trans 4l65e built .pacesetter l/ts true duals w/x pipe and magnaflows,14 bolt rearend swap ,3.73s,aroemotive fuel pump system w/elec.fuel controller and bypass regulator a/n fittings, taylor 10.5s interceptor gauge,aem w/b a/f ,autometer boost/vac NELSON 93 OCTANE TUNED .

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    Sounds like a waste to fine tune what you have right now. If you bought the lifetime tune from Allen, install the S/C and get an update. Was your Escalade the 345HP 6.0L or the 5.3L? Is your ECSB 2wd or 4wd? Do you have a accessories on it that make it heavier such as a bedcover, tool box, 20s or offroad tires and wheels? I know the base 6.0L only pulls 300HP at the engine. What cam did you install? Did you put new springs and hardened .080" wall pushrods in, also? It's pretty hard to compare one to the other without the details.

    The 20s alone will slow you down against the Esc.
    See my truck data in the "My Garage" section here... http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/my-ga...tml#post191709

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RedHeartbeat &#064; Jun 18 2007, 12&#58;22 AM) [snapback]97091[/snapback]</div>
    Sounds like a waste to fine tune what you have right now. If you bought the lifetime tune from Allen, install the S/C and get an update. Was your Escalade the 345HP 6.0L or the 5.3L? Is your ECSB 2wd or 4wd? Do you have a accessories on it that make it heavier such as a bedcover, tool box, 20s or offroad tires and wheels? I know the base 6.0L only pulls 300HP at the engine. What cam did you install? Did you put new springs and hardened .080" wall pushrods in, also? It&#39;s pretty hard to compare one to the other without the details.

    The 20s alone will slow you down against the Esc.
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    i like you youre oon it ,alright then im jst gonna wait till i install the s/c .i appreciate the help i know theres too many variables to just keep doing this all night .i just dont know what i should of expectes out of the 93 tune i figured alot of advance etc, maybe hopes were too high from reading threads all night lol.i did run better but i didnt see any more ass out of it ,so im feeling like i could of went with a basic tune ya know?
    mods:2004 sierra ext sb,20s ,big brake kit w,hawk pads,air bagged,2006 6.0 lq4 swap,vortec supercharged10psi, air to water intercooled w/ dual electric fans on it ,snow meth injection kit,60lbers, e-fans ,big radiator swap ,cam 218 /222 548/550 comp .hardened prs .1.85 comp roller rockers ,guideplates ,crane double springs,trans 4l65e built .pacesetter l/ts true duals w/x pipe and magnaflows,14 bolt rearend swap ,3.73s,aroemotive fuel pump system w/elec.fuel controller and bypass regulator a/n fittings, taylor 10.5s interceptor gauge,aem w/b a/f ,autometer boost/vac NELSON 93 OCTANE TUNED .

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    Just be patient, with the S/C on it you should be flying after the tune update. Did you buy larger injectors for the S/C? Get as much information as you can here or on performance trucks about things to do with the S/C install such as leaving the boost-a-pump module out and getting bigger injectors. Don&#39;t run the updated engine with the current tune. Get an updated tune on the way to you ASAP so you have it when the S/C gets installed.
    See my truck data in the "My Garage" section here... http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/my-ga...tml#post191709

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    Hey, how&#39;s it going?

    The first step is to ensure we&#39;re getting max timing and no false KR.
    Would you happn to have any buddy&#39;s near by that have a scanner?

    I&#39;d like to see what the truck is doing. I do remember it was a very small cam, but the tune alone should have woken the truck up nicely.

    If we need to, we&#39;ll send another retune out to see if we can get more power.

    talk to you soon,
    allen

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    hi allen nice to see youre all over these sites too.really.id like to see if you could wake me up more ,how could i go about getting you to send me something to wake it up alittle more ,like i previously posted im totally satisfied that you did make my truck run after my swap.thank you and the promptness was owesome overnight,i dont have access to hp tuner ,tuning around here is unheardof,um like the only one in a 100 mile range at least that has even had a perf tune.seriuosly ,i did speak to you directly so thats awesome you actually remember me im in buiss too and its hard to rem. all calls so that tells me one more reason thatyou do care .so youll always have me as a custumer with that kind if review.any way id like to see if you could wake me up .before the s/c so ican do beans for beans.iv tried getting ahold of you when i first got the tune unsuccessfully for a couple days then gave up understandibly.im doing the s/c sometime in the next week or so do you just want to send me that tune {woke up} with thes/c tune on it .im not good at waiting so have no problem ov/n ing .tell me the best way to get you and pin this down,i think igot lucky the night i got you at the office,after that poof you were gone.lol.so like whats the best time to get ya ,pm me if you want to,ya know.thats probably a crazy thing too ask on a post i know thats why i said pm me.and red htbt i know nothing about s/cing and any info i need to know up front like above if you want to add to it or give me some please do ,i dont want to make any mistakes and i want max pot.when i install the s/c ,so please continue with above.
    mods:2004 sierra ext sb,20s ,big brake kit w,hawk pads,air bagged,2006 6.0 lq4 swap,vortec supercharged10psi, air to water intercooled w/ dual electric fans on it ,snow meth injection kit,60lbers, e-fans ,big radiator swap ,cam 218 /222 548/550 comp .hardened prs .1.85 comp roller rockers ,guideplates ,crane double springs,trans 4l65e built .pacesetter l/ts true duals w/x pipe and magnaflows,14 bolt rearend swap ,3.73s,aroemotive fuel pump system w/elec.fuel controller and bypass regulator a/n fittings, taylor 10.5s interceptor gauge,aem w/b a/f ,autometer boost/vac NELSON 93 OCTANE TUNED .

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