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    Contact Frank at PERFORMABUILT

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    Well I know I'm not making power any where close to needing an 80e and even if i was approaching that point I'm not capable or willing to do the swap at this time. I'm just trying to get any suggestions on what may be the cause of whats happened and what,if anything, I can do to avoid an entire rebuild. This is only my dd and will not make enough power to need a "performance built" transmission. I just have to figure out where to start looking so I can figure out what to do. I'm gonna call a few shops and see what a rebuild will cost me, but I may still attempt it myself I just really hate working in the cold.
    1991 Silverado-L33 5.3L, 212/218 .557 .562 115+4, ASP under drive pulley,180* thermostat, 90mm truck intake w/ LS3 throttle body. Shoenfeld conversion headers and duel Flowmaster exhaust. Performabuilt LVL 1 transmission and 23-2500 stall converter.

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    So no one on this site knows about transmissions huh?
    1991 Silverado-L33 5.3L, 212/218 .557 .562 115+4, ASP under drive pulley,180* thermostat, 90mm truck intake w/ LS3 throttle body. Shoenfeld conversion headers and duel Flowmaster exhaust. Performabuilt LVL 1 transmission and 23-2500 stall converter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by low91 View Post
    Well I know I'm not making power any where close to needing an 80e and even if i was approaching that point I'm not capable or willing to do the swap at this time. I'm just trying to get any suggestions on what may be the cause of whats happened and what,if anything, I can do to avoid an entire rebuild. This is only my dd and will not make enough power to need a "performance built" transmission. I just have to figure out where to start looking so I can figure out what to do. I'm gonna call a few shops and see what a rebuild will cost me, but I may still attempt it myself I just really hate working in the cold.
    You are incorrect here. I have a friend who has blown 3 stock 60s with a stock motor and no tune. Regardless of how much you think you need... go with an upgraded 60e. Have a decent one built because with a 60e, it isn't IF, its WHEN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by low91 View Post
    I was leaving work last night and suddenly I hear a pop then a loud whinning sound coming from the transmission and when the truck is moving it feels like the parking break is on. I circled around the lot and came back to a parking space to check things out. now the truck has lost reverse and is even making a slight whine while its in park. The fluid seemed ok. Do you guys think I'm looking at a rebuild? and if so what could be done to build it a little tougher? I've never had much transmission problems so I still don't know much about them.

    you know after reading your post over again, it is odd how it broke if thats what it is but it does happen, do you have any vibration issues before this happened, i see your dropped? how much? i take it the rear end is stock, put the truck on 4 jack stands, drop the drive shaft, see if you can turn the rear tires, i would check the rearend first, before just pulling the tranny.. just cause it sounds like its coming from the tranny it could be coming from the rearend, if that pans out to be ok drop the pan, if you did break something in the tranny i am more than sure you'll have some type of shavings in the pan..
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    I have rebuilt several 60e trans with no reverse there is a drum in there that is bad to brake. When it brakes it will have only 2 forward gears and no reverse. It has been a while but I think it is 2nd and 4th you have or is it 1st and 3rd... There is an aftermarket drum that is stronger available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by low91 View Post
    ...an experienced mechanic suggested that its most likely the pump starving for fluid. It'll move forward but whines like crazy, but theres no reverse at all. I guess I'll pull the pan and see if the filters clogged then go from there.
    That was my first thought too.

    Ok, since you have already heard the list of good builders--either get one from them--or do you have a local guy who will build it? If so get a waaay stronger fully built input drum from PATC and this kit.

    Good luck.

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    My immediate thought was that it was the rearend but after messing with it i'm pretty sure its the transmission but I'll check it all out tomorrow when i get some free time. I called a few local rebuilders today and got some rebuild prices that ranged from 1200-1500. One of the guys I talked to said it sounded like the reverse sun shell was to blame and that if that was the case it would cost about 1,000 to fix just that. I was thinking about ordering one of these and build up/repair my current trans. as I get time. $1134 shipped, seems like a good deal, but at 1600 the performa built may be the way to go.

    4L60E Transmissions-ALL except Corvette Transmission:eBay Motors (item 270464472595 end time Dec-01-09 09:57:25 PST)
    Last edited by low91; 11-26-2009 at 12:01 AM.
    1991 Silverado-L33 5.3L, 212/218 .557 .562 115+4, ASP under drive pulley,180* thermostat, 90mm truck intake w/ LS3 throttle body. Shoenfeld conversion headers and duel Flowmaster exhaust. Performabuilt LVL 1 transmission and 23-2500 stall converter.

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    When installing a new 4L60E, you should also install a new torque converter at the same time. True or false?

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    Quote Originally Posted by low91 View Post
    My immediate thought was that it was the rearend but after messing with it i'm pretty sure its the transmission but I'll check it all out tomorrow when i get some free time. I called a few local rebuilders today and got some rebuild prices that ranged from 1200-1500. One of the guys I talked to said it sounded like the reverse sun shell was to blame and that if that was the case it would cost about 1,000 to fix just that. I was thinking about ordering one of these and build up/repair my current trans. as I get time. $1134 shipped, seems like a good deal, but at 1600 the performa built may be the way to go.

    4L60E Transmissions-ALL except Corvette Transmission:eBay Motors (item 270464472595 end time Dec-01-09 09:57:25 PST)
    Its all in how you wanna do it. You can purchase all the performance parts online for under $500 and then remove the unit from the truck yourself and take it to a builder who will assemble it for about $350-$400.

    Quote Originally Posted by LS1GMCTruck View Post
    When installing a new 4L60E, you should also install a new torque converter at the same time. True or false?
    Sometimes. Depends on the reason for the new tranny and if any modifications have been done to the motor to warrant a higher stall speed.

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    TORQUER V2 CAM ● COMP 918's ● 7.4 HARDENED PUSHRODS ● K&N SERIES 77 CAI ● 80mm BBK ●PACESETTER LT HEADERS AND 3'' ORY ● SUPER 40 FLOW ● 3000 STALL ● 4.10s ● BUILT 80e ● VORTEC PERFORMANCE TUNE ● MSD 8.5mm PLUG WIRES● ELEC. CUTOUT ● UD & ALT PULLEYS ● FLEX-A-LITE E-FANS ● 22" CENTERLINE STINGRAY III's ● LUND FIBERGLASS TONNEAU ● 2" LEVELING SHACKLES ● 12K HID LOWS & FOGS ● LEDs ● DEBADGED ● WHITE-FACED ESCALADE GAUGES ● KICKER 450.1 ● 2-CVR 10's ● DS60's ● K693's

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