here is some food for thought..

[Melissa@NelsonPerformance]

Oh yeah, time is a human invention that controls our lives.

which there is never enough of! and definitely controls my life..
Why only 24 hours??? why not give me more time to study!?!? damnit! lol

[conekiller01]

blame it on the mayans......lol

[GasGuzzler]

You don't even want to get me started on government and it's connection to religion, or the moral obligation to the environment, other people, and animals and etc.
Government in America is too large. There is not one part of government that is better than the other because they are all corrupt. Religion should be the follower's business and no one elses. Our natural rights come from us having a brain to choose what we think is best for ourselves(this should of be government's role). In other words, if people are stupid enough to choose to do drugs that will eventually take your life then they have chosen their fate and there shouldn't be a law that prohibits their desires. It's not fair that taxpayers have to pay to house these "criminals" that take up space in our jails that can be used for rapists and murderers. I also believe in the old fashioned rule of "treat others as you would want to be treated". That goes for humans , their possessions, and animals. That covers a few of them don't you think? Oh yeah, time is a human invention that controls our lives.

Thanks for most of that.

[Chavy]

In the old days, Philosophy was the explanation for lapse in memory (and judgement) for the time period of insobriety. It was an excuse to wear flip flops, bell bottoms, and be proud to inhale instead of sweating Fortran and Linear systems. Don't get me wrong either, I really liked the excuses, so I will walk down memory lane for a few fleeting moments before I return to my other less practical quests like 101 ways to destroy a good set of tires.

Not withstanding all the string and molecular theories as applied to physics both applied and imagined (if you will entertain me this thought), examine the physical room to which you are bound this moment (barring you are not wireless poolside this moment). You will most likely note a variety of items composed of many different materials (barring they have not been stolen or you practice a strange transcendentalism that allows you internet paraphernalia). Though some are cloth, glass, plastic, metal, or whatever….they are all porous at some sub-microscopic level. The greater the density, the more the matter is compact. The less dense and the matter is less compact and more “space” exists (I think I am starting to get back into the swing of this). Now think in terms of water on a paper towel; less dense, water passes through relatively quick (unless you are in a Bounty commercial). Lets put the water on a piece of wood, dismissing the fact the water may evaporate prior, the water would ultimately soak into the wood and through it provided enough water was provided; more dense, much less space in the matter to “seep” through.

Now imagine you are a sub-atomic particle that was able to penetrate any material object in your room. As you passed between the objects there would appear to be endless nothing. As you passed through a metal object it would appear much denser than many other objects you will pass through. The less dense the object the more space you would travel through between the sub-atomic matter that comprise the object.

Next apply this same philosophy to travel though the Universe (in the infinite sense). Imagine a starship (go you Kirk) speeding through space. Each galaxy you will note is comprised of a different density of matter (suns, planets, moons, debris) and with what will appear to be different stretches of space between galaxies.

I think you are already seeing where this is headed but I will spell it out together for those that might be orbiting on something already anyway or near a crash and burn for the night countdown. Revisit the objects in your room and think of them in terms of comprised of galaxies similar to the ones you just beamed back from (thank you Scottie). Now reminisce back to your trip through the Universe and imagine what objects those galaxies might make (for a lack of a better description) in a Giant’s room.

Okay this is too simple….lets step it up a notch. Now if you are familiar with quantum physics you are also most likely in tune to some extent to string theory. Simply here are all the sub-atomic particles in the matter are comprised of charged strings. I am going to steer away from any detail here because I certainly don’t want to get caught in a cross-fire on the varied opinions on string (bowed, straight, poppy-cock, or otherwise).

Time for far side to set in; let’s go anatomical. Think of the nerve tissue within your body (and I am only speaking for the carbon constructed earthlings but otherwise welcome to the planet anyway). It is made of fibers that carry charges of information back and forth. A good example is your good pal gives you a good pinch. The nerves transmit the information to the brain, it’s processed, and a reaction is put into place to what has transpired.

Yes its time for gumbo and put all the ingredients together. Imagine that all matter is woven with a sort of semi-string-nerve network. Think in terms of what you do has an impact on this network and there is a reaction at all different levels.

Time to really orbit here, check your stash, if you are low, bum some from your pal….here we go with folding-in or folding-over or folding-out. Think of all space including its matter as a fabric…but something beyond the 3-dimensional sense. Enter the other variables as to how time intersects or parallels the fabric. Now let’s “fold”. One fabric point folded to some point out of sequence. Crazy huh. Yeah but now think “black hole.” Hey but quit thinking 3-dimensional…instead of just doing a “skip” in space or time….skip from your room to the room of the Giant. Or even so you may skip to the Giant’s Giant…..or go smaller where you are considered the Giant. Here’s a wild one….what if the matter in our universe are really components which comprise us. In other words the Giant’s room exists in our left big toe or that same big toe is really made up of an infinite amount of galaxies out there.

Time would be one of the spools woven into the fabric. This is a "fold" idea that would include many such similar spools whereby depending on the "fold" something large like a galaxy to our perception may exist simultaneously microscopic to our perceptions as well.

Now think in terms of parallel, perpendicular, secant, cosecant, infinite perceptions. It brings to question if this very sentence did or didn't exist in different form, fashion, manner, and times all at once or different times to infinite.

Think in terms that our very thoughts are part of this same folded fabric (and keep remembering it’s much more infinitely complex than a 3-dimensional concept). And when one day we have actually conceptualized what we think it is (as my self-deluding attempt herein) that we have only scratched the surface and still remain clueless infants in something more infinite and complex than the universe we are already mostly oblivious too.

The idea can cover everything....explaining that reincarnation is folding, religion/spiritual is folding, philosophy is folding, and on and on. You and I are separate threads in the fabric yet at the same point (be it whatever spool) we are the same or common threads. You or I can have a thought which ripples the fabric. What collective impact might we have, having, or have had......and time is but one thread...its more complex.
Folding or unfolding are just words to describe what we think we can perceive but in reality, non-reality, and all the other "folded" points that bisect within the "fabric" we cannot. It's too complex and far beyond us. We are so accustomed to our own Natural Laws that we try to explain everything in those terms....making it something 3 dimensional something we can grasp or perceive (i.e. fabric or fold).

For instance Wolff's Equation of the Cosmos where theorized is the Eight-fold way of the Universe. The descriptions as far reaching and attempted to part from the Natural Laws in the end result back to explanations we can perceive (i.e. boot strap universe). The same with other genius such as Mach, Broglie, Feynman, Wheeler, Moore, Clifford, Cramer, Racey, etc. having spent their lives trying to make explanation in our Natural Law perceptive terms. They can hardly be more than you and I.....wrong.

But what a great dance to be wrong on the off chance that maybe just maybe there is a little right to be had within. But it’s a bit like playing Jeopardy except that no matter how many right guesses you make......Vanna does not turn the letter over. And as frustrating as that is to most people to stretch their minds while dealing with such a cold hearted Vanna, for the few willing to dance (play the game) the reward that comes from being able to turn even one letter over......I would just think that jubilance would be inexplicable.
The aeon is acknowledged ("explained" would be a poor word choice since most likely I am wrong) as a spool that threads the fabric (fluid like time). The archon, archons, or lack there of, while being probably the most controversial fits the mold nonetheless. The fabric could be "the archon" or perhaps the archon is composed of the same fabric, as we are, as everything else we know and know not of as well. Perhaps all the above or none of the above or all and none (remember it’s visioned herein as infinitely dimensional). We can each construct one paradigm after another riddled with polemic neologism. However, we appear to be just striplings in what I will call the fabric. We lift our cups in dance of a groat-worth of any specter of knowledge....."Oh Vanna reveal but one letter....how about a clue...am I getting warm?"

I scratched the surface of the fabric, time for the reactions and there is a ripple no matter that anyone was standing in the forest or not to hear the tree fall. And the beauty of it all is that in some way I am wrong….not enough nerve tissue or processor for that matter.

But despite being wrong, I really use to like to dance in the bliss of inconceivable oratorio (though with less hair and half sober it seems a little more mundane).
In my previous "visualization" I didn't need to go there because I was there and there was here....parallel, perpendicular, infinite axis-directile. But the one most likely thing was I was wrong but that was my spin. Other than that I haven't really given it much thought, so I guess it is Philosophical. Now back to real problems of the universe....turbo or supercharge.

[txarkitekt]

You don't even want to get me started on government and it's connection to religion, or the moral obligation to the environment, other people, and animals and etc.
Government in America is too large. There is not one part of government that is better than the other because they are all corrupt. Religion should be the follower's business and no one elses. Our natural rights come from us having a brain to choose what we think is best for ourselves(this should of be government's role). In other words, if people are stupid enough to choose to do drugs that will eventually take your life then they have chosen their fate and there shouldn't be a law that prohibits their desires. It's not fair that taxpayers have to pay to house these "criminals" that take up space in our jails that can be used for rapists and murderers. I also believe in the old fashioned rule of "treat others as you would want to be treated". That goes for humans , their possessions, and animals. That covers a few of them don't you think? Oh yeah, time is a human invention that controls our lives.

*Standing Ovation* Well said Sir.

Although I would like to add something to what you said about Natural Rights...Yes, it is true that you should decide what you think is best for yourself--but don't let it stop there. In your decisions, you should put yourself first and how that decision will affect others second. Even though it may be good for you, it may not be good for several others...HINT--think ethic of reciprocity.

But then again, you made up for it when you mentioned it with your reference to the 'Golden Rule'/Luke 6:31.

In the old days, Philosophy was the explanation for ...(WAY TOO MUCH TO QUOTE)....turbo or supercharge.

O H M Y G O D. I am speechless.

[CHEVROLADE]

my next course is philosophy...
im pretty excited about it. i thought you all (intelligent people excluding lambchop) would appreciate some questions that are asked everyday but are not really thought about enough!
critical thinkers check-in!
• To what extent do we have a moral obligation to people we don’t know? For
that matter, to what extent do we have a moral obligation to nonhuman living
things? How about the environment: do we have a moral obligation to it?
• What are the ethically legitimate functions and scope of government? What
form of government is best? What is the proper connection between religion
and the state? Questions like these separate Democrats from Republicans,
conservatives from liberals, communists from capitalists, and theocrats from
democrats.
• Do people have natural rights? If so, how do we know that? Where do they
come from? What makes one person’s list of rights superior to another
person’s?
• Is there a God? Perhaps just as important, Does it make any difference
whether there is or isn’t a God?
• Do ends justify means?
• What, if anything, is the self? Is a person more than a physical body? Do
people really have free will?
• What is truth? Beauty? Art?
• Is it possible to know anything with absolute certainty?
• Does the universe have a purpose? Does life? Is there order in the cosmos
independent of what the mind puts there?
• What is time?
• Could anything have happened before the Big Bang?

i dont understand a damm thing.im a high school dropout with a diploma lol

[cjriojas]

Philosophy is retarded. Philosophers teach others how to contradict them and each other and dont do anything for progress.

my next course is philosophy...
im pretty excited about it. i thought you all (intelligent people excluding lambchop) would appreciate some questions that are asked everyday but are not really thought about enough!
critical thinkers check-in!
• To what extent do we have a moral obligation to people we don’t know? For
that matter, to what extent do we have a moral obligation to nonhuman living
things? How about the environment: do we have a moral obligation to it?
• What are the ethically legitimate functions and scope of government? What
form of government is best? What is the proper connection between religion
and the state? Questions like these separate Democrats from Republicans,
conservatives from liberals, communists from capitalists, and theocrats from
democrats.
• Do people have natural rights? If so, how do we know that? Where do they
come from? What makes one person’s list of rights superior to another
person’s?
• Is there a God? Perhaps just as important, Does it make any difference
whether there is or isn’t a God?
• Do ends justify means?
• What, if anything, is the self? Is a person more than a physical body? Do
people really have free will?
• What is truth? Beauty? Art?
• Is it possible to know anything with absolute certainty?
• Does the universe have a purpose? Does life? Is there order in the cosmos
independent of what the mind puts there?
• What is time?
• Could anything have happened before the Big Bang?

I'll answer them later. Too tired

there is no such thing as a CORRECT answer.....we have laws(newton crap) we have constants(math crap) and hypothesis(guesses?) but for something to be absoluetly true it would have to be true in every single case that has ever existed and since no one has ever been around for all of existence and not seen every event or happening how can we possibly know that gravity always pulls down? how do we know that every circle follows pie? these things CAN NOT be proven for all cases only stressed to someones opinion and yes they will work for us every time and will seem true but how can this be known?.....

Really?! Every time you come to this site you further try to achieve defeating these forces that you claim have not existed since the creation of this world. Contradiction.

In the old days, Philosophy was the explanation for lapse in memory (and judgement) for the time period of insobriety. It was an excuse to wear flip flops, bell bottoms, and be proud to inhale instead of sweating Fortran and Linear systems. Don't get me wrong either, I really liked the excuses, so I will walk down memory lane for a few fleeting moments before I return to my other less practical quests like 101 ways to destroy a good set of tires.

No comment. Too much to read and not worth it

[pl4yboy]

Philosophy is retarded. Philosophers teach others how to contradict them and each other and dont do anything for progress.




I'll answer them later. Too tired



Really?! Every time you come to this site you further try to achieve defeating these forces that you claim have not existed since the creation of this world. Contradiction.



No comment. Too much to read and not worth it

Philo is rally fun. It gets you thinking. It didn't change MY way of thinking at all. When we started the class, we had to write our basic philo of life, as well as when it ended. Mine was identical.

[lo-lyf]

Philo is rally fun. It gets you thinking. It didn't change MY way of thinking at all. When we started the class, we had to write our basic philo of life, as well as when it ended. Mine was identical.

I have this gut feeling that you are quite stubborn and not open to change( I was too at your age). There is nothing at all wrong with being strong-willed and set in your ways. However, when I was about 22 I realized that being more open to change and not being as stubborn made me a happier person in general. I always thought I was happy before and would argue with a brick wall about it, but now I can truly say I am a happy person. I feel a love for everyone regardless of anything. Also, not saying you are unhappy, just bringing in some more philosophy.

[pl4yboy]

I have this gut feeling that you are quite stubborn and not open to change( I was too at your age). There is nothing at all wrong with being strong-willed and set in your ways. However, when I was about 22 I realized that being more open to change and not being as stubborn made me a happier person in general. I always thought I was happy before and would argue with a brick wall about it, but now I can truly say I am a happy person. I feel a love for everyone regardless of anything. Also, not saying you are unhappy, just bringing in some more philosophy.

I really, really, really like to argue. I don't mind what side I'm on. And you're partially right. I'm very stubborn and set in my ways, but will at least hear the side of the other before I reject it.