Gm Is Dying:(

[George C]

Wow, just read through 14 pages of this and feel as though it's everyone against George (as usual ) J/k. Not trying to stir everything back up but...

I agree about the whole unioins were good at one time or for certain trades, but what about this example: players union for baseball. You have guys making 10's of millions of dollars every year to play a GAME all because the unions are protecting them and asking for that kind of money. Yes, agents play a role here as well but only because the union allows them to. I just can't see how unions are a good thing these days.

I also read where someone wrote that union pay was better than non-union. I think that's relative to where you work. Most people here don't make $9 and hour for a trade unless it's standing behind a cash register in a HEB.

Here's a question for you George (not being an Ahole, just asking), since you are/were part of a union, how does it feel when you are busting your A and getting paid the same as someone who is slacking? Does/did management do anything about it besides a slap on the wrist? The point I'm trying to make is that there are downfalls to both union and non-union sides in regards to slackers and favortism. All you can do is bust your rump, do what's asked of you (or more) and let the cards fall where they land. Can't depend on someone else to protect you.

for you reply ive seen it and didnt like it to be honest but i went about doing my job and didnt worry about them since it wasnt job to keep eye on that individual. it sucks but they always gets theirs

as for everyone against me...well it normal and just leads to much stronger character

[pl4yboy]

In response to the hydrogen powered vehicles post...


Yes, hydrogen cars have been developed and are fully functional. The issue is supplying hydrogen. All stations would have to be fully equipped to store the hydrogen. It has to be compressed and kept in liquid form, which means extreme sub-zero temperatures.

[mnc2fan]

Seems some oil companies are researching pulling hydrogen out of the hydro-carbon. I wonder what we do with the carbon afterwards... ,not what we need. Unless it all comes from Texas, and Alaska.

But totally agree with the diesel for now, and hydrogen for the future. The whole plugin car, just not something I'm interested in doing. Especially with the price of electricity now. Even over this way where most is from hydro-electric dams, I don't understand that by the way, cost nothing to create, other than up keep, but cost the same as oil, or coal plants

It would be awesome to see a GM hydrogen powered. We should also convert all our v8's to burn hydrogen , maybe a little less power, but hey just boost it more FTW. Hydrogen, the more you compress it, the more power you can get if you burn it.

[MidnightRider]

Yup no unions in the oil field. We make it just fine with out them. Its either bust your ass or you will or some one else will bust theirs to and get your job.

damn straight

Me working hard pays My bills, not someone else...

not true now obama is running the show you working hard will be paying the lazy ass peoples bills too

Agreed on that point.

+1


george is smart but unions can kiss my butt. I moved to saint louis started a business and had my life threatened because i wasnt union. So i moved back to OK. If texas Ever becomes a repulic im moving there. Oh btw if all hell breaks loose guess were all the hippie northerners will go. Yep you guessed it. To the redneck texas southern relatives house they know. Why you say? FIRE POWAH IN MASS QUANTITIES

[Ramsey]

Were all hippies?No offense but i havent seen a hippie since the 70s .lol.Although I did here of one you guys have. gg,lol.Like i said im not biased to north or south ,the war was over along time ago,and I dont know crap about the war even if i was fighting it.

[SCIV]

as for everyone against me...well it normal and just leads to much stronger character

Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I am against you. Has nothing to do with character either. People have different views, does that make your view more "right" than mine? I think not.