yea when i installed my circle D, converter bolts were so tight had to tighten the tranny bolt half way by the starter and had my buddy hold a ply bar up on the bolt into the teeth of the flywheel to keep it from moving ,believe me it made it alot easier. if wondering this is when the tranny was about 3inch off the motor i gave up trying to pull the tranny an converter together until i did this

mike