Hp Tuners

[6.0vortecchevy]

but what if you got a AFR meter already set up, would you just have to right it down on a peace of paper.

[mean05]

but what if you got a AFR meter already set up, would you just have to right it down on a peace of paper.

well lets say you are driving and scanning and you are watching the gauge and for some reason you see it drop down to 13.8 afr then goes back normal, how are you going to see exactly where it had that dip, imean you can kind of tell but with the afr right there in the scan graph its much much easier

[6.0vortecchevy]

Ok thanks alot, and is that the only reason for the pricing diff tho.

[mean05]

no pro has real time tuning and other little stuff that basic doesnt, i want pro but i will have to send my cable in and lose it for a couple of weeks and im just not okay to do that lol

[chevy1500z71]

no pro has real time tuning and other little stuff that basic doesnt, i want pro but i will have to send my cable in and lose it for a couple of weeks and im just not okay to do that lol

are you sure about this? not calling you a liar at all becasue i really dont know about your trucks. i tune my obd1 truck with an emulator, and from my understanding the only way to tune in real time is to have an emulator, there is nothing to emulate on a pcm that you have to flash, theres no chip. so how can you tune in real time on somehting that you need to stop and reflash the pcm to get a new tune in? im not understanding. does it rewrite the operating system to load several different tunes at once and let you switch the tunes off in real time or soemthing like that maybe? that would be considered real time tuning i suppose.

and also, if it really can tune in real time(which is pretty damn cool), does efilive v2 also offer this?

[farmtruc]

are you sure ...from my understanding the only way to tune in real time is to have an emulator, there is nothing to emulate on a ...

and also, if it really can tune in real time(which is pretty damn cool), does efilive v2 also offer this?

RTT is supported on almost all vehicles up to '04, and others, it really depends on the vehicle and if HPT supports that calibration.

Yes, HPT will allow you to RTT parameters. Once you're done, you simply stop and load the tune in. It saves tons of time, especially with FI SD tuning.
Depending on your vehicle, it allows you to RTT:
VE table
Spark Table
PE
Idle
IAC
02
VE-TPSVE

Once RTT is enabled, it allows you to RTT through the scanner. The tables in the scanner are identical to the editor, so it's a seamless crossover.

Not sure about efilive, I only use HPT.

[farmtruc]

Ok Guys Im Going To Give It A Shot.im Going To Purchase The Hp Suite From Np.
Since Im Going To Be A Noob At This,what's The Software Like?
Easy,medium,hard?

Should I Get The Regular Or Pro?since Im F/i.

Get the PRO.

If you're getting hptuners so you can learn to tune, then you'll need a solid foundation in EFI concepts, terminology, etc. Believe it or not, it really helps to know how carbs and distributors work as well.

If you're getting hptuners because it's hard to get up for a live tune and you want to optimize your tune via email, then you're set. I'll do all the work and you'll simply send me feedback and I'll email you a retune.

ttyl,
allen

[chevy1500z71]

RTT is supported on almost all vehicles up to '04, and others, it really depends on the vehicle and if HPT supports that calibration.

Yes, HPT will allow you to RTT parameters. Once you're done, you simply stop and load the tune in. It saves tons of time, especially with FI SD tuning.
Depending on your vehicle, it allows you to RTT:
VE table
Spark Table
PE
Idle
IAC
02
VE-TPSVE

Once RTT is enabled, it allows you to RTT through the scanner. The tables in the scanner are identical to the editor, so it's a seamless crossover.

Not sure about efilive, I only use HPT.

woooo, you lost me there, how do you real time tune if you "stop and hit the load button when your done". what is considered to be real time tunning on these trucks is my main question i guess.

when i tune with my emulator, i can change a value on my VE table and it automatically changes as im driving, and i can watch my air fuel ratio and get it perfect, imo its the only way to tune, any other way would be a big pain in the ass. i feel bad for the guys who have to burn chips on the pr 95 trucks. the emulator is my chip and the program is connected with the emulator. all my tuning is done through an emulator, nothing gets done on a aldl port except dataloging.

[farmtruc]

woooo, you lost me there, how do you real time tune if you "stop and hit the load button when your done". what is considered to be real time tunning on these trucks is my main question i guess.

when i tune with my emulator, i can change a value on my VE table and it automatically changes as im driving, and i can watch my air fuel ratio and get it perfect, imo its the only way to tune, any other way would be a big pain in the ass. i feel bad for the guys who have to burn chips on the pr 95 trucks. the emulator is my chip and the program is connected with the emulator. all my tuning is done through an emulator, nothing gets done on a aldl port except dataloging.

I don't know the magic behind the RTT, but I'm assuming it does this:
When you start the scanner and click the RTT button you can choose from ve,pe,spark,etc tables. The scanner copies the calibration table you want to edit into RAM, then forces the PCM to use the RAM table. The pcm ve table and ram table are now identical and the vehicle is using the ram table.
Now you're able to make on-the-fly changes , RTT, while you're driving to the ram table. yes, a/f moves up and down as you're making changes realtime.
Once you're done tuning realtime, you simply copy the ve ram table to the editor's ve table and you load the tune in the pcm. Yes, there is a final step you must perform, you must right the ram ve table to the pcm when you're done. So, yes, it's RTT, however, the changes must be uploaded in the end.

The old way of doing it was, collect as much data as you can with the scanner, then turn off the vehicle, then load the changes, then continue this time consuming cycles until the tune is perfect. During an SD RTT session/tune, I probably make 50changes and only have to pull over to write the change once.

[mean05]

I don't know the magic behind the RTT, but I'm assuming it does this:
When you start the scanner and click the RTT button you can choose from ve,pe,spark,etc tables. The scanner copies the calibration table you want to edit into RAM, then forces the PCM to use the RAM table. The pcm ve table and ram table are now identical and the vehicle is using the ram table.
Now you're able to make on-the-fly changes , RTT, while you're driving to the ram table. yes, a/f moves up and down as you're making changes realtime.
Once you're done tuning realtime, you simply copy the ve ram table to the editor's ve table and you load the tune in the pcm. Yes, there is a final step you must perform, you must right the ram ve table to the pcm when you're done. So, yes, it's RTT, however, the changes must be uploaded in the end.

The old way of doing it was, collect as much data as you can with the scanner, then turn off the vehicle, then load the changes, then continue this time consuming cycles until the tune is perfect. During an SD RTT session/tune, I probably make 50changes and only have to pull over to write the change once.

see i wanted to say what RTT is and how it works but i dont have the RTT on mine so i couldnt word it right...i however have to scan for 30 secs turn off the scanner flash a new tune and repeat...hell i did 30 startups on mine to get the stft's to 0ish...pain in my ass