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    Sorry for all the run on sentences, thoughts were flying from my brain quicker than i could type. This subject just really eats me up. I feel like a slave for the government.
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    The next time you think we're getting screwed on fuel taxes check out what they pay for petrol in England.

    Denton has a huge bio-diesel manufacturing facility and a great deal of the city of Denton's vehicles burn it. I'm not too sure how much impact they're making on the environment though. It's also almost impossible as an individual to get waste fry oil around here now unless you buy it, the refinery buys it from the larger restaurants leaving nothing for us. My neighbor wants to do his own bio-diesel but can't get used oil. He may have to get new oil to create the fuel from.
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    its like 10+ a liter

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    Sucks to be them, makes me glad i live half a mile from work, i should walk for my own health but i cant go a day without driving my truck at least once just to hear the exhaust. either way fuel prices are probably going to go up even higher later this summer.
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    My g/f is a broker for the trucking ind. trust me we know how bad the price of diesel is. She has contracts with most company's that can only be renewed once a year. yea we are feeling it. A couple year back several truckers went to DC and parked in font of the white house stopping all traffic for over 20 hours in protest. We need that again, but on a larger scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badseed91 View Post
    off road diesel is also supposed to be ultra low sulfur diesel as well,
    dyed diesel is not low sulfer diesel

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    My friend's rig can hold 500 gallons of fuel I don't see how he keeps the thing on the road, figure $4.00 X 500 = $2,000 a fill up

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    In the end we pay for it with higher costs of goods at the market. Truck drivers get paid no matter what unless they're under contract to supply their own fuel at a flat rate calculated prior to the rise in fuel prices.
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    Red diesel is ultra low sulfur diesel, dye is added to the same fuel that is made for consumer use, the dye is to indicate that it is not taxed and therefor for off road use only. manufacturers dont like it used in the trucks they sell because they cant verify that the fuel meets 100% of the requirements for ultra low 15ppm sulfur content. Plus have u seen they way off road diesel is stored at most farms? in an above ground tank in the cow pasture somewhere all rusted to hell and it takes a farmer a lot longer to use the fuel in the tank (when he isnt harvesting crops) than it does a gas station so fuel doesnt get replenished with new freash fuel very often, it has a lot more time to to be exposed to water and other contaminants as well as algae that will grow in diesel and is almost always found in off road diesel tanks. Thats why manufacturers dont want to warranty injectors and high pressure pumps when red diesel is used. I am no longer allowed by ford to turn down certain warranty claims for injectors because red diesel was used if the fuel filters are clean, if they are clogged with algae, sand, rust and water then we are supposed to turn the claim down. I ahte doing that to poeple and usually dont if they will let me change their fuel filters, to save their a$$es in the long run. Supposedly the diesel comes from the same tank at the refinery and when a truck is supposed to load up with off road diesel the dye is injected as the truck is being filled. So red dye diesel is ULSD it used to not be that way with LSD for those who dont believe it i can provide documentation from ford about it if anyone would like to read it.
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    And do not forget the price is affected by the nice Energy tax good ol Bill Clinton put on fuel while he was in orifice, Diesel has more BTU's per gallon, hence more energy per gallon, which nets a higher tax.

    Also like stated above, red fuel is same as regular diesel, just with the dye for tax perposes, and the road gustapo can dip your tank and see the red and give you one BIG FINE! They do that around here in lower Alabama, the wife was driving my 2500HD and got dipped, she was scared because just 3 days before I said screw it, I am gonna run farm fuel....I did not, so no fine for us, thank goodness.

    Glad to see a diesel thread on here, I am always on Diesel place.com, so now here is another fix for the habit!
    Last edited by Tolliwacker; 04-26-2008 at 04:36 PM. Reason: c
    2006 1500 CC/SB with the 5.3L and Nelson PCM.
    soon to come is a intake and exhaust. (wifes truck)

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