How much $ to charge??

[sprayedenali]

im not sure if thats the one im thinking of, but im pretty sure ive heard some bad things about the NGK wideband...

[trx2stroke4life39]

I have the NGK and have never had a problem. when i was looking to get one alot of people told me to get the NGK it is the best budget wideband available. check out HP Tuners forum before you buy one.

[txarkitekt]

You better like to like to read... and sit in a seat looking down at a computer screen !!! .... HPtuners isnt HP easy

Yes, reading is one part of it. But another huge part is tuning time. Seat time is more beneficial than reading really. But you have to do the reading part FIRST before you get out there and start modifying tables...

he speaks the truth. Unless you can get someone that does tuning with HPTuner to show you how to do it, it will take forever to learn. I even bought the Greg Banish book and DVD and still don't know squat. The software does not come with any guides telling you how to use it. Worthless software until you familiarize yourself with it.

Greg, another good point. I haven't picked up a book concerning HPT and I feel slightly confident that I could do some basic tuning just by sitting and watching Dale work his magic. Watching someone who is really knowledgeable with HPT helps more than anything.

yeah i think just starting out it shouldn't be about charging for the tunes for your buddies, just let them cover any costs you have to do their truck and let the experience be your pay. When you get confident in your abilities then think about how much.

Yes Ilya--what I would recommend also.

I wouldn't worry too much about the language barrier, man. You write English better than a lot of U.S. citizens!

My compliments, sir.

+1

You should jump on the Hptuners forum also.

Yeah, but just use it as a basis for certain tables. And to ask for help/ask questions. Look for some of the older/higher post count members/Moderators.

Another good thing is the tune repository NEVER FLASH ONE OF THOSE TUNES IN YOUR TRUCK however it is a good way to see what some people are doing so you get a better idea of what to do.

Best piece of advice for using the HPT website!

[RedHeartbeat]

I think the only bad reviews I've heard of was for the early versions of the Innovate LC-1 widebands, multiple failures. Understand the one they're selling today had been fixed and the issues no longer exist. You have to be careful when buying an used LC-1 due to this issue. The LM-1, not sure if i've heard of issues on that one from Innovate. I may have them backwards, whichever one was the least expensive was the one they had the issues with.

[bangbangskeetskeet]

im not sure if thats the one im thinking of, but im pretty sure ive heard some bad things about the NGK wideband...

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/r...B_Shootout.pdf
According to this the NGK was rated the worst...
It may be somewhat biased because its from Innovate's own site but the info is still good IMO.

[RedHeartbeat]

Good find

The actual article, requires subscription to read entire content...

Wideband O2 Sensor Shootout! | FordMuscle Magazine

[bangbangskeetskeet]

Good find

The actual article, requires subscription to read entire content...

Wideband O2 Sensor Shootout! | FordMuscle Magazine

Thanks Greg. I posted it a month ago I think but it didn't get much response...