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    4L80E shifting problems

    Hopefully someone can answer my question since I don't know sh!t about transmissions. I got my swap done into my 84 GMC 4x4 and have been driving it none-stop since Saturday. Runs like a champ! Only problem is, it shifts really hard and it won't go into overdrive. Could it be the fact that I'm not using the original transfer case and it thinks its a 2wd?
    A drunk mans words are a sober mans thoughts

    1984 GMC Sierra Classic 3/4 ton 4x4
    Dropped in 6.0L LQ4 and 4L80E transmission out of a 2000 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD

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    Do you have both speed sensors connected on the driver side of the transmission?
    See my truck data in the "My Garage" section here... http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/my-ga...tml#post191709

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    Yeah they're both there. The rear one is brand new since originally it was just a plug.
    A drunk mans words are a sober mans thoughts

    1984 GMC Sierra Classic 3/4 ton 4x4
    Dropped in 6.0L LQ4 and 4L80E transmission out of a 2000 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD

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    is there a pulse counter wheel thing in the transmission? Some transmissions didn't have two pickup points in the 80e, one was blocked off and the reluctor wheel thing isnt there.
    See my truck data in the "My Garage" section here... http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/my-ga...tml#post191709

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    Yeah the reluctor ring is definitely there. I know its all there because I felt really stupid when I swore up and down that it was a sensor and it turned out to be just a plug. Before I found that out, it wouldn't shift past second gear.
    A drunk mans words are a sober mans thoughts

    1984 GMC Sierra Classic 3/4 ton 4x4
    Dropped in 6.0L LQ4 and 4L80E transmission out of a 2000 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD

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    It may be your TP sensor? Mine did that and shifted really hard into 2nd and 3rd. The TP sensor was off, but I have a drive by cable.

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    Tow/Haul switch is wires directly to the 2000 BCM. The BCM sends a Class2 message to the PCM to engage T/H mode. I don't think you have that issue but I'm not sure how some of these swaps work without the use of a BCM.

    I also originally missed the fact you have no VSS in the transfer case. Yes, you need it...badly. It makes no real difference if the T/C is in 4WD or not AS LONG AS IT'S NOT IN 4LO. I doubt a 4L80 will shift into OD in 4LO. Also, I'm surprised it shifts at all with no VSS. It's my understanding that the two speed sensors on an 80 are for internal trans slip diagnosis and TCC application. The VSS does all the work for shift timing/pattern, etc.

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    Here's the GM internal component checks for no 4th gear.

    Seals (527) (531) Nicked or cut

    Cup Plug (530) Missing

    Bolt (26) Loose, broken, or missing

    Piston (528) Jammed

    Spring Assembly (532) Jammed

    Retainer Ring (523) Not seated

    Friction Plates (525) Worn or burned

    Reaction Plates (526) Worn splices

    Housing (529) Damaged or cracked

    Housing (504) Broken

    Reaction Plates (508) Worn splines

    Sun Gear (650) Worn

    1-2 Solenoid (313)
    • Stuck Off
    • Pinched wire
    • O-ring failure
    • No voltage to the solenoid


    No signal to the solenoid

    3-4 Shift Valve (308) Stuck

    PCM Quad Driver Module Failed

    Check the PCM for current DTCs.

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    Since he has both speed sensors in the trans, shouldnt he be able to run a 2wd PCM and it should shift the transmission perfect regardless of transfer case gearing? Isn't the reluctor wheel on a transfer case shaft 40 pulse, too? Putting the sensor in the transmission should have alleviated the transfer case issue, unless there isnt the reluctor plate in the 80e transmissions that are built for 4wd trucks, correct?
    See my truck data in the "My Garage" section here... http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/my-ga...tml#post191709

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    I see...yes, I guess that makes sense with 2WD tune....unless the pulse count is different.

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