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    I need some help from the experts please! I wen't to work today driving normal and when I got to work I parked and shut the engine off. The truck set for 5 hours before I started it for lunch but now the damn thing idles rough and I got a MAP code. I cleared the code and let it idle for about 10 minutes hoping it would either code again or start idling normal. While I was looking at everything under the hood I put my hand on the intake plenum and the 3rd runner from the throttle body was pretty damn hot compared to the rest. I said shit, I must have broke a valve spring or a valve is stuck. I pulled the valve covers off in the parking lot and everything still looks like new, nothing is broke or seams to be bent. I put everything back together and cranked it up and it idled normal for almost a minute before crapping out again.

    Here's a little bit of log info at idle:
    RPM - 919
    Inector duty - 3%
    MAF - 1.51
    MAP - 60
    Timing - 14.0
    TPS - 0 %
    Injector B1 - 4.5
    Injector B2 - 4.3
    O2 B1 - 217
    O2 B2 - 846
    LT B1 - Peg out at 25
    LT B2 - Peg out at 25
    ST B1 - 0
    ST B2 - 1.6

    Any thoughts on this?


    97 GMC, 2002 LS6.

    1991 GMC Syclone #1428

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    Greg, Would you move this to the tuning section. I wasn't thinking when I posted it.


    97 GMC, 2002 LS6.

    1991 GMC Syclone #1428

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    Try that plug on that cylinder, other than that if the code doesnt come back then you know its probably not the MAP sensor. I would also check the wire for that cylinder.
    2009 Silverado, HPTuners, all stock.

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    I'm with you on the sensor chris. I know for sure that the coils are working but didn't have the tools to pull the plugs today. I'll try to pull them tomorrow just to see if they're wasted. I need to buy a set for the new heads when they came in anyway.


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    1991 GMC Syclone #1428

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    I'd move it but for some reason I have no magical powers in this region. I am but a meek little mortal here.
    See my truck data in the "My Garage" section here... http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/my-ga...tml#post191709

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    Readheart, dont lie to us, we know u r a highlander (inmortal) that's where ur knowledge come from!!!!!!!

    I se the log and Bank one show lean mix!!!!! and bank 2 too rich, I think that for a idle 400-600 will be a nice number.

    I'll check the plugs and the O2 sensors if I was u!

    Also fuel filter and probably dirty injectors, but the cycle looks good and steady.

    Can't tell more, that is all a I might learn thru Allen Voodoo
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    Did you get a bad batch of gasoline? I'd take your return line off your fuel rail and pump gas into a clear container and see if you got water or contaminants in it.
    See my truck data in the "My Garage" section here... http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/my-ga...tml#post191709

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    Ok, here's the scoop:

    Clean fuel 100 plus octane added.
    Clean fuel filter
    Plugs are clean but I'm going to put a set of TR6's in with the new heads next week.
    Clean injectors. I have a 3M cleaning kit.
    Compression test 145 + on all cylinders.

    Still the same problem. Act's like the timing is off. I'll figure it out this weekend.



    97 GMC, 2002 LS6.

    1991 GMC Syclone #1428

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    Could you possibly have a coil dying? Losing fuel pressure? Low voltage?
    See my truck data in the "My Garage" section here... http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/my-ga...tml#post191709

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    It's possible, but what would heat just one intake runner on the plastic plenum? That's what has me thinking an intake valve is possibly sticking once the engine gets moving and friction takes over. I know when a valve leaks it will force gases back into the intake pressuring it up. I do get a MAP sensor code saying it's out of range on the Solaris. I don't get it.


    97 GMC, 2002 LS6.

    1991 GMC Syclone #1428

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