I've Had It!!!!!!!!!!

October 31st: we adopt a dog from the humane society.
November 2nd: she pees and poops in her crate and them continues to roll around in it.
At least once a week(sometimes 3 or 4 times) this dog craps in her crate. A week ago she pissed in our bed and the week before that she peed on my couch. I am up typing this at 3 am because she peed in our bed while were @&$?ing sleeping in it. I hate to be the next person to give up on this dog but when I'm out a good $3500 in furniture, that's where I draw the line. She will be on her way back to the humane society tomorrow. I hate to do it, but we have tried everything imagineable to try and housebreak this dog to no success. Sorry, I just needed to rant.

its an animal. some you can work with, others you cant.

Eh thats the thing about animals... you get one and let it live in the house, you pretty much become one whether you like it or not. Sucks though bro...:ugh2:

Yeah, unfortunately if they are willing to pee in their own confined space, it is a hard one to work with.

Thats the number one way to train a dog for being house broken. Put in cage at night and then first thing in the AM take outside to pee. Maybe it has a kidney issue though. My buds dog peed non-stop, only to find out its kidneys were shutting down. Hope thats not the situation.

I don't know what the situation is, but I have worked on this dog to house break it for a month and half. She knows where to go and what to do, but if she doesn't want to go outside she will go run and hide somewhere and do her business there. She crate trained well and even knows to tell us she needs out. I hate to give up on the dog because she is a good and sweet dog aside from the fact she is too stubborn to go outside sometimes. She is also causing trouble with my Border Collie and he is too good of a dog to let an outsider cause him stress. I housebroke and crate trained him in a matter of days. I know he is a MUCH smarter dog than this one but I have never had this much trouble with a dog, even some of the dumbest ones I've owned.

if the crate is too big they will shit in it. a dog should only have enough room to turn around and lay down in their crate. if thats the case, and the dog is still doing its business in the crate, ship the bitch back, or make it an outside dog.

Werd. My dogs stay in the yard. I have a larger than average yard, so they can run around all the time. The only time a dog slept in my house was when he was a puppy. As soon as he was big enough to escape the kitchen, and get into the wifes shoes... he moved outside. I think its better for them anyway. Dogs are supposed to be outside.

i say prolly health issue....vet before pound!

i say take a crap in his cage and see how he likes it....

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Originally Posted by MYSHTBX

i say take a crap in his cage and see how he likes it....

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Originally Posted by MYSHTBX

i say take a crap in his cage and see how he likes it....

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x2 hahaha:ugh2:

i would do a bit of research before giving up, maybe some training classes or a dog whisperer:ugh2: lol

i had 2 beagles which they never really got house trained 100%. they currently live in their own house and i go there everyday to feed/ water them and spend time with them. great dogs but just not indoor dogs.

If it wasn't so cold then she could stay outside, if she hadn't ruined my furniture she could stay here. This has still been a very difficult decision.

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Originally Posted by lo-lyf

If it wasn't so cold then she could stay outside, if she hadn't ruined my furniture she could stay here. This has still been a very difficult decision.

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I guess I missed what kinda dog it is. Most dogs that are ''real'' dogs are fine in the cold. Mostly. unless its like always below freezing and snowing lol. My dog loves the cold. He wont even sleep in his dog house, or under the porch. He sleeps in the middle of the yard in the open. :LOL:

Dam that Blows, But I secound the Vet before Pound.

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Originally Posted by ff_jeff

Most dogs that are ''real'' dogs are fine in the cold.

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What is your definition of a "real' dog? I assure you my 2 danes are "real" dogs and they do not have the coat to be left out in the cold and thier size makes the heat tough on them as well....They are inside dogs and I assure you they are no more less of a dog then any other dog tossed in a back yard.

my blue heeler has been a great indoor dog. she loves to run tho, no doubt but she's a great dog all around. she's 1.5 years old and i will be getting another dog like her eventually. i made my gf give her dog away cuz i couldnt stand it and that was tough but the dog had similar issues as to what ur describing... it was a jack russell terrier and turned out to be a decent dog. it now lives with her mom and dad and has had major health issues since we gave her to them. they spent money on the dog we never couldve afforded so it prob saved her life looking back.

Like I have said, I don't want to just give up on her. I have housebroke many dogs in the past and have had hard ones to break. She was fairly easy given her age but the whole "I'm going to piss on the couch or bed because I don't want out" thing is a little too much. She knows where to go andwhat to do but deliberately refuses sometimes. Like the other night when she went and crapper in the floor and then came and pissed in the bed. If she would pee on the floor it wouldn't be a big deal because I have tile throughout the house.

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Originally Posted by brobradh77

What is your definition of a "real' dog? I assure you my 2 danes are "real" dogs and they do not have the coat to be left out in the cold and thier size makes the heat tough on them as well....They are inside dogs and I assure you they are no more less of a dog then any other dog tossed in a back yard.

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Real dog as in a dog that can survive outside on their own. I sense a little tude. :tacos:

Jeff, come on. We all know there is only preference when describing a "real dog." It is plain ignorant to say a Great Dane isn't a real dog. They have a thin coat which is not suited for cold weather. A Husky is a dog that has a thick coat which IS suited for cold weather. Even Devin could figure that out. :spit:

Tell me something...if it was 30 degrees outside--would you rather have, let's say, a snowmobile suit on...or would you want to have flipflops, shorts, and a short sleeve t-shirt? The person wearing the snowmobile suit would survive better than the clown wearing the beach attire.

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Originally Posted by ff_jeff

Real dog as in a dog that can survive outside on their own. I sense a little tude. :tacos:

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you would be correct....it does irritate me that people who think owning a dog is all about just buying one and throwing it in a back yard and all of a sudden it makes them "real" dog owners.

This is a real dog. Not a fake.
http://www.puppydogweb.com/gallery/c...dog_abadia.jpg

This is not a real dog. This is a fake.
http://www.chihuahua-chic.com/files/sxc_chihuahua8.jpg

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Originally Posted by pl4yboy

This is a real dog. Not a fake.
http://www.puppydogweb.com/gallery/c...dog_abadia.jpg

This is not a real dog. This is a fake.
http://www.chihuahua-chic.com/files/sxc_chihuahua8.jpg

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HAHA. Yes. True statement Justin.

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Originally Posted by brobradh77

you would be correct....it does irritate me that people who think owning a dog is all about just buying one and throwing it in a back yard and all of a sudden it makes them "real" dog owners.

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You are implying thats what I did? :LOL:

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Originally Posted by pl4yboy

This is not a real dog. This is a fake.
http://www.chihuahua-chic.com/files/sxc_chihuahua8.jpg

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You mean evolving rodent. Its more a hybrid rat mouse thingie.

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Originally Posted by trx2stroke4life39

You mean evolving rodent. Its more a hybrid rat mouse thingie.

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werd. Cracks me up when I see women carrying these in a purse.

since we are on the real dog/fake dog topic.........
fake dog

http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/s...p/99f2dea8.jpg
















































REAL dog!

http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/s...p/6f42187b.jpg

http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/p...0/IMG_0847.jpg
Both real dogs, both incredibly well trained and very smart. I have a beagle that won't take off unless someone is with him is carrying a gun. (Yep he still hunts and does a damn good job) and he always comes back, not once have we had to go looking. The retriever will go get the paper as soon as he sees it, doesn't need to be asked. It takes time and patience

That is odd about your Beagle, cause they will usually just run and won't come back. But yes, dog training take a lot of time and patience.

I honestly think the beagle learned more from the retriever as far as just hanging around the house goes, I mean instincts still kick once in a while and he's gone for maybe 3 hours, no big deal.

Hell, I'd run away from you too...

my dog daisy was pretty bad when i got her, tore up everything, peed everywhere, left a trail of destruction for me nearly everyday. it took a good 5 or 6 years for her to become somewhat normal, but she has been a great dog other then that. very kind to other animals. one time she brought my nephew a baby hummingbird in her mouth, it had fallen from its nest. It was cold out so he warmed it up in his hands and it eventually got its wing straightened out and flew off.

She was barking like crazy in the backyard one day and wouldn't come when i called her to come in, so i go out there and she found 2 baby rabbits she had corralled and was keeping them in one spot. i caught them and raised them up a bit until they were old enough to go out on their own. Despite all her problems she has been a wonderful dog. Recently her back legs started to seem weak and shaky, then just a few days before Christmas she had pretty much lost all use of her back legs.

i brought her to the vet and they said it was spinal deterioration and will only get worse and recommended putting her down. she is 14 years old now which is pretty old for a purebred beagle. They said they could try steroids but didn't expect it to help at all. So i have her in my apt with me, giving her the meds, she is peeing at least once a day on my carpets, (luckily i have a steam cleaner) but she is walking around some now, a little off balance but she is improving. I know the time will be coming soon that i have to say goodbye to her, but im hoping for at least another year.

my real dog....
trained as well
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/g...lade1/dawg.jpg

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Originally Posted by STUNNA

my real dog....
trained as well
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/g...lade1/dawg.jpg

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Ahhh, a fur coated razor blade. Dobies are cool. Good for hunting, if you dont mind the dog eating the bird as a snack before he comes back. lol.

Dobermans are some good looking dogs.

My mom's papillion has a spinal deterioration too. It started when he was about 14 as well. My mom being the dog lover that she is bought him a "wheelchair" that is one-off custom made to fit him perfectly. He had lost complete use of his rear legs too. After a few months in the chair he started to regain use of his legs. Now at almost 17 he gets around great without the chair. His legs are not perfect but it is a miracle.

You guys aren't telling me anything I don't already know about training, I have trained all of my dogs and done very well at it. Stoney(border collie) was the easiest ever. My others took a few weeks, month or so. I've never done extensive training with my dogs because all I care about is that they let me know when they need out and do what they are told when they are told. What it all boils down to with Lucy(dachshund mix) is we are not the right owners for her and she is not the right dog for us. She needs to be with a retiree that can be home with her at all times and hold her in their lap. If Stoney wasn't getting stressed and acting out more, and she didn't have a habit of rolling her feces when she's pissed then I would love to keep her. She can be outside for an hour and then come inside for 30 minutes or so, be put in her box while we go to eat for maybe 2 hours and we come home to a dog covered in their own turds. So then we have to clean her and her crate(while holding back the heaves) when we should be able to take the dogs for a walk or something. It's not medical because if it were then I could see it happening during the 5 hour streches that she is in the crate. She does the poo and roll when she has to be physically put into the crate. She is crated at night now too since the last bed wetting incident where she went and pooped in the living room(not a problem) then came and peed in my bed(big problem). She can stay in the crate for a solid 8 hours with no accidents.

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Originally Posted by sleeper1500

I honestly think the beagle learned more from the retriever as far as just hanging around the house goes, I mean instincts still kick once in a while and he's gone for maybe 3 hours, no big deal.

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I put my twin beagles in their pen every night. Every evening they would run off and play for a few hours. I could hear them barking outside until dark, when they'd come home. Never once did I have to go looking for them. But then again, I started training them at around 2 months old. At night time, they were sitting on the porch waiting for me to let them in their pen. Very good dogs.