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I started another thread like this on fullsizechevy. Everyone said its a great motor. Others said there is other really good motors to. After I met all the guys from performance truck.net i saw that they are all running with the 6.0.
I am talking these guys are making some serious power. Any input?
LS3 will beat the pants off a 6L engine without any modifications.
6.0 Been Around And Make Good Power,but Go Ls3 Ftw!!
haha nice one guys. Well i am assuming the ls3 would cost me like ten grand to get alone?
no ls3 will run you,well so far cheapest one i found was 4,500,thats what ill be swapping in my 08' soon.
New they're under $6500. Check out SDPARTS.com and CrateEngineDepot.com for GM prices on complete engine assemblies.
Thats to much you guys. I want to get moving fast. I had a friend get a 6.0 for 800 bucks out of a burned denali.
Hes pushing over 800 pound feet of tq with the turbo : ) Thats why i want to get a 6.0 out of a truck and swap it in and do some simple mods. I think i will be moving plenty fast by then.
yea u can get a 6.0 alot less than a 6.2,range from $1200-$2200
you can find a 6.0 for under 1k. add heads and cam and your way above the power of the Ls3 for alot less money. for the money you spend on the 377 you could have a built 6.0 turned 377 for the same price and have better power
or if your stuck on using the Ls3 heads and intake you can toss those on a 6.0 and still be cheaper and have same motor essentially
Thanks for the last reply. Man I cant wait to get a 6.0! So that motor will haul ass just with some work like cams and long tubes? And black bear or a nelson tune?
Now were talking!
Ok... #1. These motors only have a cam. We (GM) doesn't need DOHC motors to make good powa! :burnrubb:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gopedxr
And #2. Nelson tune...but I have also heard good things about the Blackbear as well.
With a decent sized cam, long tubes, stall, and maybe even some heads you will be in a great place. WAY past the LS3 for WAY less money.
im' with everyone else the 6.0 is a great starting point.
buy 6.0, throw away everything but the crank and block and build from there. Get forged rods, forged pistons, quality rings, put good heads on it, aftermarket cam, Cadillac or LS7 lifters, hardened pushrods, roller rockers, main studs, head studs, bearings, complete gasket set, larger injectors... that ought to drain your bank account :laugh:. Stroke it for more displacement and you can lighten your wallet another $800 minimum using Eagle parts.
I know I have about $6000 in mine in parts alone for the 408 and cheapie PatriotPerformance heads.
weber racing before was offering a 408 shortblock for 2800 bucksQuote:
Originally Posted by RedHeartbeat
I can only imagine what kind of cheap crap they used to build one for that little. :eek:
Block = 2nd grade $500 = grade 1 $900
Forged rods = $500
Forged pistons and rings = $600
Forged crank = $800
Bearings = $250 for good ones with steel backing, not el-cheapos
Cam bearings = $30
Main studs = $150?
machine work, deck block, bore and hone, align hone crank, assemble... would you do it for $2800 or buy one knowing how cheap of parts they must be using?
there out of ohio and just posting for drama lol. hell my rotating assembly was 4500. if your assembling the motor yourself its very feaisble to have a motor built good price with Eagle and diamond partsQuote:
Originally Posted by RedHeartbeat
I like my 6.0. :wave:
I like my 6.0 too
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Originally Posted by RedHeartbeat
ls7 will beats the ls3 without modifications whats the point? 6.0 is a good motor-
Just make sure it is an 01 and newer 6.0LQuote:
Originally Posted by RedHeartbeat
I like my 5.3L. I'll like it even better once I get my new mods on. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
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Originally Posted by blazinblue
at $13000 for a base engine it better. Add another 3-4k for everything to make it work. The ls7 engine is old technology, too, and it would only take about $3000 in work on the LS3 to beat an ls7. GM built too good an engine in the ls3 making it really hard to sell the Z06 packaged Vettes. Lets talk LS9! :rock:
I like the way you think Greg!Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHeartbeat
I will like my 6.0...once I dump some money into it.
then again you still get a 6.0 with a few bucks into it making more power then both of those.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHeartbeat
right around 550rwhp seems to be limit on NA rwhp motors before they get to radical to some. a healthy 6.0 can get there same as a 377 as in 6.2 or 7.0
Same HP level and close to 100 lbs heavier still means slower in the long run.
let me ask you this.. are you running an aluminum block in your truck? 1/10 isnt much to worry about for most ppl. if i worried about weight i wouldnt have a fullsize truckQuote:
Originally Posted by RedHeartbeat
If I had it to do all over again I would be. Let me ask you this, when you were running your 408 before it took a dump would you ever dream of trying to make a little ol' 4.8L mean by putting a turbo to it and pushing it to the limits? :speechless:
I know DBRODS' LS2 is aluminum and he's faster than I am with less cubes and less nitrous. 400 lbs makes you about .4 seconds faster.
i would say depends on the application the LQ4 would have my money over the ls3 for boost any day and as far as cost for the price of a ls3 you can make a Lq4 way more powerful 6.0 ftwQuote:
Originally Posted by RedHeartbeat
yeah, money always seems to be the issue.
Out Of The Box Power,ls3 Rules All
6.2=403hp-422hp-430hp
6.0=300hp-345hp-367hp-395hp
what 6L output honest 395HP? LS2?
Yea The One In Tbss,think It Was Rated At 390-395 and ls2 vette 400hp but still 6.2 has more power lol
this sounds like a Chevy vrs L debate
And if LS3/L92 heads were so bad why would Nelson Racing Engines, and other top flight outfits include them in their motor packages? Uuuh huh! :D
Its all fun until someone gets butthurt. :laugh:
yea they got us turning against each other lolQuote:
Originally Posted by DBRODS
The LS2 put out 400hp in the Vettes and Gto's... it took 11 to 1 CR to get there with the LS2 vs. 10.5 to 1 and Ooooh some much left on the table with the LS3.... But what do I know, I'm building a 6.0 block with L92 heads :D
What's wrong with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by DBTBSS
I think a lq9 with bolt ons would be best with a budget in mind. I don't think he ever said he wanted a 408 think he just wants to go alil faster