Next Step on the truck

Ill be selling my Z71 soon and that will make me totally debt free besides the truck note which Im already making almost double payments so I dont feel bad about dropping some big coin on the truck while still paying a note. I can do one big thing within the next couple months on it and the other will have to wait till tax return next year. The two major mods I want to do is a built trans and the suspension lift. The suspension lift isnt necessary but would make for a very nice riding truck. Right now with the bars cranked it rides alright but not nearly where I would like it to be. I would be doing a 4-6" cognito lift with all the steering upgrades, deaver springs in the rear, sways front and rear, with an airbag setup in the rear for when Im hauling and compensate for the soft rear springs. The other is doing the built trans. Doing the built trans would allow me to throw the "big" tune in it and have a 7K# truck on 35s in the high 12s. The trans isnt hurt right now since I have a small tune in it but it runs pretty damn good right now for what it is. Its probably a mid 14 second truck on the 35s. I have a transgo jr kit in the garage that Ill be putting in within the next couple weeks which will allow me to juice up the tune slightly(+60ish hp). So that should net me a LOW 14 second maybe high 13 second truck on 35s. Having the built trans and all that power would be a blast but with the stock suspension cranked I cant do any 4hi launches since the angles are too steep and Ill bend tie rods so strictly 2wd fun without the lift. Im leaning towards the lift more right now since it would make the truck alot nicer to drive and it already has plenty of power but I know that will change the first time I race somebody and barely lose and think if I would have had the big tune in I could have beaten them. To clarify the truck doesnt ride bad now it just has a ton of room for improvement. Cost wise they are within a couple hundred bucks of each other so cost isnt a deciding factor in this. So vote on the pole, Im interested in the comments.

How much can you sell a stock allison tranny for in good condition?

The trans that is in the truck will be taken apart and rebuilt. Casey23 on here will be doing the removal/rebuild/install of the trans since Im too lazy to pull that big mofo out myself, the Z71 has worn me out on wrenching.

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Originally Posted by 1slow01z71

The trans that is in the truck will be taken apart and rebuilt. Casey23 on here will be doing the removal/rebuild/install of the trans since Im too lazy to pull that big mofo out myself, the Z71 has worn me out on wrenching.

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Oh ok that makes sense. I thought you would just be trying to get a new rebuilt shell and sending in your old core somewhere. Well damn. How much longer you think the tranny will hold if you decide to do a lift that you have wanting to do?

It will last until I upgrade it next year if I end up waiting.

Upgrade the trans first before you break it or put undo wear on it while playing around. Screw it up and you'll double the cost of the upgrade.

The Allisons dont break hard parts until good clutches are put in there. If its stock the clutches get toasted quick with high power so its not going to break anything thats going to cost additional money. Its not like teh 60es that break input drums and planets.

have you ever checked out ats diesel performance? their the makers of the aurora turbo's and other goodies like that. when i get my dmax(should be really soon), ima get one of their trannys and slap on the aurora 5000 with supporting mods. i would check them out theyve got great products and rep for the dmax's. theyve got lots of good parts from injectors to tunes.

Im going with the suncoast kit, they have a good track record and I like the 1058 converter. And Casey knows his stuff with these trans so I trust them and I also dont want to mess with the install. Why would you upgrade the turbo? The stock turbo and injectors are good to 550rwhp and over 1100ft-lbs of tq and at that point you are on the edge of hurting the motor and needing a built one. Also their tunes are just like mail order tunes, they are alright but not good enough. I have efilive to do anything I want now I just need to learn how to use all the tables.

im gunna build a sled puller with it so thats why im going to put a bigger turbo on it and lift pump and all that crap. and i wouldnt use their tunes either, ive got hptuners i was just saying they had all that.

Im trying to keep this thing reliable this time around so Im going to stick with the stock turbo so I know Im not going to blow the motor Im through with motor swaps.:laugh:

haha yeah thats a good call

Lift Lol!!!!

I voted for the lift.
Are you step up to 37's or 38's with the lift?

Im stuck with 35s and max 3" of lift in the rear so the bed rails will still clear a fifth wheel trailer and also still fit in my garage.

I think your truck looks bad ass already ... You already have wheels and tires on the truck .. Most people install a lift then wheels/tires to match ... since you put a buggy in front of the horse.. I see no reason to look back now.... I will give you an update middle of next week. TurboMic's truck will be done and see what his 300+hp tuner does with a 1058 :burnrub:

GO with the 9" Cognito Lift, and all the steering upgrades... It well worth it... We did it to my brothers truck, and it looks badass... 4-6 is what everyone else does... (at least around here)
With Stock Tires
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...y/P1000515.jpg

With 37's
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...y/DSCF0018.jpg

And Then i went back and read the part about the Fifth Wheel.... I C

Lift it and figure out the small things later. lol

have you looked at ATS, i heard that they are the best with allison trannies.

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And Then i went back and read the part about the Fifth Wheel.... I C

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If it wasnt for that and wanting to park it in the garage it would have the cognito 10-12 with 40s:(

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Originally Posted by yellowdemon327

have you looked at ATS, i heard that they are the best with allison trannies.

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Im going with the suncoast kit and Casey building it for me,I trust them and they are local. I also wont have to deal with core charges etc. The suncoast IV kit and 1058 converter are a proven package so Im not afraid going with it. Im not going to be sled pulling or anything so Ill be fine.

I am with Casey...truck already looks good the way it is--and you can still fit it into the garage... Do the TC and tranny now!!!!

casey is doing mine now.... sc4 and 1058

I voted for the lift because I think your truck already runs badass.

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Originally Posted by TurboMic

casey is doing mine now.... sc4 and 1058

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When you come through Austin Id like a ride in it. When do you think that will be? What kind of tune are you going to be running in it? I think Ive decided Im giong to do the cognito UCAs, with dual shock hook and dual shocks up front, steering upgrades, cognito HD tie rods, bilstein shocks and sulastic rear shackles so that will give me a better ride and upgrade my steering so I can do the trans and converter. It will make me have to wait an extra month or so to do the trans but will make the truck ride better but save me about 800 on the rear setup and and almost 2K on the front but all of that stuff will work once I finally do, do the lift except for the shackles. After I get those suspension upgrades on if it doesnt ride to my satisfaction then Ill do the rest of the lift kit, but if it does ride the way I want then Ill do the trans. Im definately going to need the wilwoods soon after the upgraded power it already doesnt stop so great.

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Try the link, it has all my stuff listed, I will probably be going through Austin on wed or thurs.

Leave it to Cody to post up a Poll... Let everyone vote then go the other way ... :nutz: Took a few pics of the 1058 for Mic I think the converter alone is 25lbs more... I am hunting a scale right now... So its not just ..:bsflag:

Its a compromise to not go full out on the suspension. Ive got to do a little something about the how it rides, its nto horrible but it could be quite a bit better. It would cost me a little over 4K to do the whole suspension, but doing what I said would be about 1500ish, then the price you quoted me on the trans stuff.

I think most everything with the Bars cranked up Rides a bit like a train .. Add offroad tires and its a for sure deal... I think Mic's truck is a sleeper he has had alot of these trucks and has alot of fast toys .. And this will be his first Built Trans/Stall so i am sure he will give everyone his feedback on power/shifting/towing and MPG as many miles as he drives... http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...rejeep1035.jpghttp://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...rejeep1034.jpghttp://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...rejeep1038.jpg

man that looks tough.... cant wait to see how that tranny likes the full 350hp tune and the 200 squeeze& water meth...... I will def be posting some times for my haul truck. I will be getting my Ls1 truck going soon too. My heads shipped today from WCCH.....

So have you run this truck at the track before?... I have No worrys about Cody he rides in your truck he will get the bug and have to Keep up with ya !... A++ on WCCH ... Richard is Great people I hope I can post up some great numbers with his stuff soon

Yeah I have had some low 13 passes on the 225 hp tune, water meth, and a 50 shot of n2o. I have never run the 350 tune. Im sure it will be 12s pretty easy. we will see, I dont like to do any guess racing.....

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Yeah I have had some low 13 passes on the 225 hp tune, water meth, and a 50 shot of n2o. I have never run the 350 tune. Im sure it will be 12s pretty easy. we will see, I dont like to do any guess racing.....

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You do know at the 600rwhp level people start screwing motors up right? With the 350 tune and a 200 shot you will be well over 600rwhp unless you just dont care and want to build a badass motor for it. I priced out building a badass forged dmax out of an LB7 block and holy ****, its an EASY 15K, probably closer to 20K for the motor I would really want but I would have 1000rwhp and almsot 2000ftlbs of tq thats totally streetable:)

Ive had a dmax every year since 01, lb7, lly,lbz and ran the same on all, they are hard to hurt. i beat pretty hard on them, I usually have over 150k miles and around 6-7k hours on them. havent hurt a motor yet. 1st time for everything.....

Damn I need to get a job where you work:laugh:

ive never heard that anything over 600+rwhp on the lbz's they start braking. thats new to me. im sure youve heard of nasty girl. im almost positive its the stock dmax engine core

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ive never heard that anything over 600+rwhp on the lbz's they start braking. thats new to me. im sure youve heard of nasty girl. im almost positive its the stock dmax engine core

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That is the point at which reliability goes down the tubes, any little hiccup can toast the motor. The owner of nasty girl is also one of the best tuners in the nations truck. Im just basing it on what Ive read on dp on all the motors that have blown up. The lBZ may be bit a mroe resistant due to it lower CR and better block. There are some 5.3 engines putting down 600rwhp with boost and are totally stock internally but they arent going to last forever. If you arent worried about long term realibility then go for it, me on the other hand I dont want to be replacing a motor any time soon.