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OK. Kept waking me up last night....
pulled his tune last night and all the trans tables look stock....im going to grab a stock one from hptuners forum later and double check them
There shouldn't really be any changes to trans tune unless some of the tables are ZEROED out , like I've seen in some tunes :hyper2:Quote:
Originally Posted by mean05
TM is probably or should be turned off. The PCS table should be stock, or close to.
If you can't find a stock file, I'm sure I have a couple thousand of them. :LOL:
Hope this helps, and man, what a long damn thread!
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Originally Posted by farmtruc
his TM of course is all gone, the converter lockups were changed a little for the converter and WOT lockup, the tcc duty cycle was changed..the max and min table, desired shift time was changed but not zeroed, and of course the WOT shift and shift rpm tables have been changed
if you have a stock 99 with 3.42's email it to me virgil6868@yahoo.com and that would be greatly appreciated
Doesn't PATC sell a complete conversion kit for the 60e to 80e? Freakin website is a pain to navigate.
speedengineering, ex-site sponsor, sells one
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And yes, they do sell them. They're toward the bottom of the PATC 80e section.
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Originally Posted by mean05
here you go:
http://www.ls1truck.com/newstorage/temp/flash.hpt
thanks!
Do it yourself and cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by DamnYankee
Only thing that will be out of your reach is the driveshaft. I don't know if yours will accept a shorter slip yoke, or need to be shortened, but any good driveshaft shop can do it.
Everything else can be bought locally and you can do all the work.
there is a badass driveshaft shop just around the corner from us, so thats not a problem
You don't know Moze very well. :laugh: J/KQuote:
Originally Posted by farmtruc
I'm just going to take it to a trans shop and pay out the ass for it. Then I'll probably sell it. I can't afford to stay in the game with stuff breaking.
put unbreakable (less prone to breakage) parts in it.
Just read this entire post. My FLT suffered the same fate. Bought a used 65e to keep me road worthy for a few months. Both 65e's sitting in the garage floor now and finishing up the 80e swap here shortly. Good luck with it bro!
I can't keep spending money. I'll either get it fixed and keep it and try like crazy to baby it until I can get a daily beater, or sell it.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHeartbeat
I guess we know the limits of a Level 5 65e then. Low 12 seconds / high 11's means it's time for an 80e.Quote:
Originally Posted by KySilverado
Got the truck dropped off to Trans Pro in Terrell. Very good feeling about these guys. Got there at 5:00 and they were pulling a 70's Camaro, a 70's Z28, and a '55 Chevy into the garage for the night. All-out drag cars, all sounded NICE. They without a doubt know their stuff. They're starting on it Monday - pressure tests and stuff and then go from there. Thanks to Virgil for getting me in touch with them. They asked all the right questions (what gears, how many pounds of boost, what converter, etc) and said they wouldn't replace anything that didn't need it (after I told them we just put $500 worth of parts in it). I think this is going to turn out pretty good.
I miss my truck. :sad:
If it was stock when we worked on it there would be no problem today provided the converter isn't messed.
The fact the FLT you have (had) was missing so many parts and had been "modified" so much made impossible to figure out what they did when it was "built" before.
Glad I'm not a moderator and I'm sure we won't see this post much longer....
FLT highly mods there trannys. Mine has lasted for 2 years. 6 or 7 months of mine had been with at least 500 crank horse power. And it is a heavy 4wd truck. I also drive it hard. I do think I have pushed its limits. I also think Moze has pushed the limits of his.
Yeah, maybe. It was fried and had missing parts though.
Moze buy yourself a beater. I am going to. Just as a spair and for when and if the truck is down.
I don't think this is reflective of something lacking on FLT's part. The internals were cooked because someone bypassed the trans cooler int eh radiator and simply ran it through a very small aftermarket cooler. That cooler wasn't enough - my temps at the track (which also means on the street) were at 270 degrees. Water boils at 212 degrees. My temps NOW with the deeper pan, running through the radiator, and the 40k gvw cooler are a little over 100 degrees.
I wasn't aware of any parts missing?
"Missing" is a loose term to describe leaving out the selective washers to make more room for clutches...which requires thinner clutch plates.
Ah - gotchya. Guess I missed that part.
That was discovered when you girls were out shopping. :lol:
Oh hell....
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Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
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Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
There is only one selective washer in a 4l60E. The one behind the bearing on the input drum to the stator. Now there are different thickness pressure plates for the forward clutch, reverse input clutch and also for the 3-4 clutch. Also trust me that unit had all the required parts in it for it to work properly with absolutely no missing parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
Because all the parts were there. Just not ones that a back yard builder see's when building stock units.Quote:
Originally Posted by DamnYankee
Does it work yet? Oh wait I think it went to a trans shop to get repaired! Maybe there are missing parts!:tvhaha:Quote:
Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
DamnYankee I really wish you would have sent that unit back instead of taking the route you took. I think maybe you can see why now. Good luck. Vince
FWIW Vince, one of the steels was missing out of a clutch pack. We don't know that maybe someone else had gone through the transmission in the past. Nobody should be pointing any fingers at FLT since we don't know the history of the transmission since it was bought used. :thumbdown:
all in all the trans did take a whole lot of abuse, the guy Moze got it from sprayed a 150 shot on it for who knows how many bottles and Moze beat in it for a year, part of that with some boost, that trans had more beating on then any of my built ones have had, i was impressed for sure...
Now Moze is in a hoe for a couple of days...how does it feel to be cruising a slow daily :P
OK maybe I jumped the gun here. I did not know that this unit was purchased as a used piece. I can guarantee that I did not leave parts out of the unit when it was originally built for the record. I build many units and always check clutch clearance and end play with the proper tools. I also make some of the custom pieces you guys might have seen in that unit if they were still there. I just have an issue when I see the FLT name brought up in threads like this. As you were. Sorry! Vince
i doubt it,i run high 11's for the last few weeks,12 flats to .2's anytime of the year well for the last couple of months, making 4 to 6 passes a nightQuote:
Originally Posted by DamnYankee
my tranny is still as strong as the first time i put it in, maybe low 11's high 10's may be the limit!!!! which i will find out soon enough..
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Originally Posted by DamnYankee
been there done that, seen the most exotic cars pulled out a tranny shop, heard the lines i (we) can build any tranny to hold any HP, just to find out they only built 350's and 400's wtf lol blew there tranny in 1 week!!!! go figure!! not once but twice!! they sold my tranny and refunded me the money!!!
sorry vince i didnt buy my tranny from ya, but i am very aware how your work is done and how much power your builds can hold!!! theyre just plain freaking awesome!!!
Hahaha. Caught myself by the nape here before I ever even had to edit my post.
I'll save everyone the remainder of the facts because I'm hurting people's feelers.
Where's the humor? I guess I'm missing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vince @ FLT
Hindsight is 20/20. If I knew I was going to wind up waiting this long and spending this much, I would have sent it to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vince @ FLT
Standing in my driveway staring at a broken daily driver and not knowing how I was going to get to work for who knows how long and not really having the funds to send it back to you or the time to wait for it prompted me to accept Greg's offer to rebuild it. I made what I felt was the best decision given my circumstances.
I should have said the limit is around 500hp - not given an E.T. Vince even told me the limit was probably about 500hp. That will put most trucks in the low 12's or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by skeet
These guys have been around for a while and deal extensively with 60e's, 65e's, and 80e's. And they said the same thing Vince said - that I was probably at my limits anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by skeet
Again, I'm not, and don't think I have, pointed a negative finger at FLT. I believe it was heat that ultimately killed this, not an error or omission on their part.
As everyone knows...... I have everything to build a Bad ass 4l60 with a Brake all the best parts less billet imput/outputs ......I made the choice of going to the 4l80 because the conversion was next to free and i was able to Sell my T brake and get another for the 4l80...... I really miss the 4l60 !!!!!!!!! ALOT less converter Drama.... Sorry about your Luck Moze but next thing that should be check is the Tune.... make sure you dont have Crazy pressures and Lazy shift settings..... add alot of stain of trans thats useless
Man I'm sorry to hear your having so much trouble with your transmission.
I hope mine holds up a couple of more years I believe my warranty just ran out this weekend.
Yeah, that one had more issues than just being worn out. Something is amiss internally or with the wiring or noids.
werent a couple of the noids stuck also
There were codes related to the TCC losing voltage. Weird. That one made me think the internal harness or noid was bad. Hopefully its not the PCM wiring that has a short. Possibly a bad ground?