New Dyno numbers after tune

[Sleeper]

as in more gain per mod than a bone stock motor, but whatever i can see the sarcasm, so nevermind.

[farmtruc]

Originally posted by Hay Hauler@Jan 1 2004, 09:30 PM

Man, you seem like you are very experienced at this!

he only acts like he knows , hahahhaah

[Hay Hauler]

Originally posted by Sleeper@Jan 1 2004, 09:48 PM
as in more gain per mod than a bone stock motor, but whatever i can see the sarcasm, so nevermind.

LS1's dyno all over the place (280-350's in stock form) and since the trucks (especially the excab) have a greater DT loss than the cars it is expected to be down on power (mine made 302/318). I have seen cars with stage II heads and more than 440 total duration dyno 376 with all the bolt ons, and the same setup make well over 420. These heads are ported by humans that can make mistakes (unless cnc'd). I hope thats not my problem, but that is one thing I am looking into. Your statement is what I expect from most of the people on the internet. Most of the people that have had constructive input either own thier own performance shop or are racers with a vast amount of knowledge. Maybe when you start your project I might learn something by then will be able to give you input like " not enough to consider it a heads/cam truck...more like just a cammed truck" Again thanks for your input!

[Sleeper]

Originally posted by Hay Hauler+Jan 1 2004, 11:23 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Hay Hauler &#064; Jan 1 2004, 11:23 PM)</div>

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@Jan 1 2004, 09:48 PM
as in more gain per mod than a bone stock motor, but whatever i can see the sarcasm, so nevermind.

LS1&#39;s dyno all over the place (280-350&#39;s in stock form) and since the trucks (especially the excab) have a greater DT loss than the cars it is expected to be down on power (mine made 302/318). I have seen cars with stage II heads and more than 440 total duration dyno 376 with all the bolt ons, and the same setup make well over 420. These heads are ported by humans that can make mistakes (unless cnc&#39;d). I hope thats not my problem, but that is one thing I am looking into. Your statement is what I expect from most of the people on the internet. Most of the people that have had constructive input either own thier own performance shop or are racers with a vast amount of knowledge. Maybe when you start your project I might learn something by then will be able to give you input like " not enough to consider it a heads/cam truck...more like just a cammed truck" Again thanks for your input&#33;[/b]

like i said..i forgot about the 2 piece driveshaft. so sue me.

i think you take what i said the wrong way being the reason for such a smart ass attitude. you never posted anything about your head or cam specs even when i asked several times, so dont jump on me when you said yourself it was mild porting and a 3 angle valve job because i assumed not a lot of work was done.

funny i have a buddy whos got some stg 2 heads/TR224 and his dynos have varied from those exact numbers. still cant find a small problem but he should be around 430rw too, just added the last bolt on(ASP pulleys) and a new exhaust last week.

so dont agree with me beacuse i dont own a shop or have a 10+ year racing career, i dont fucking care, but i may just have both of those resources next door

as for my project well i guess you really dont have a clue whats goin on with it...dont let the sig fool you smart ass. :flipoff:

my last truck had similar head work, and i really didnt consider it Stage &#33; because im sure you know everyones stages are relative to the speed shop/porter... had em clean them up a bit and 3 angle valve job. it wasnt a heads and cam truck but a cammed truck, nothing wrong with that...as i said you didnt specify your specs or what was done

all this bullshit because i simply commented that the mods would benefit better more now than without the heads/cam??? man you really got some problems upstairs.

and ive never seen an LS1 dyno in the 350&#39;s in stock form. got any proof of that? until then 302/318 is about normal for a stock 01+ LS1

[Hay Hauler]

I have posted several times what the specs are in more than 1 thread. These are threads that you have posted in. Call BS if you like but do a search or post something in LS1tech.com in internal engine and you will find you answer. Because tolerances are all over the place with factory motors the numbers vary ( i am sure you know that). I have no problems, just dont care for the sarcasm. We can talk more about it tomorrow.

[Sleeper]

i didnt see any specs(maybe the cam) hence why i had never heard of JPR or knew what they flowed. funny how allen asked the specs also but youve posted em everywhere.

i checked out the internals section of Tech, but know that every post in there involves upgrading heads/cam or strokers, none of which pertain to stock anything...i didnt expect to see and STOCK LS1&#39;s dynoing in the 350&#39;s anyway. sure numbers vary, but varying 70hp is dreamin imo.

i wasnt being sarcastic, like i said you took it the wrong way or misunderstood what was written....not my problem...as for arguing over the internet, well you know what they say......so continue if you wish, ive said my piece.

[Hay Hauler]

http://forum.ls1truck.com/index.php?showtopic=961&hl=

http://forum.ls1truck.com/index.php?showtopic=918&hl=

Threads is was talking about. I can get the numbers from LS1tech if you like, but like you said whats the point&#33;

[Sleeper]

i remember the threads. notice the last reply in the 2nd one asking for head specs?

like i said...stages are relative to speed shop/porter i could go take chunks outta my heads and call em stage 1&#39;s. simply sayin stage 1 heads doesnt say much i was akin for specs

[Hay Hauler]

Originally posted by Sleeper@Jan 2 2004, 01:16 AM
i remember the threads. notice the last reply in the 2nd one asking for head specs?

like i said...stages are relative to speed shop/porter i could go take chunks outta my heads and call em stage 1&#39;s. simply sayin stage 1 heads doesnt say much i was akin for specs

Man you are persistant&#33; Look at my second post in this thread. If I see that heads flow 280 at .550 with stock size valves I would think that they were pretty damn good regaurdless of what they are called.

[Sleeper]

you act like i insulted your heads or something, i didnt say that was bad flow. but you said mild port/valve job like it wasnt a full performance port job, i dont know who JPR is to know if they are good or bad. i asked 3 weeks ago...by yesterday i really dont care what cam/heads you have.

by lookin at those numbers there isnt a stage 1 like that within 200 miles of here....thats a good thing....just so you dont read that wrong.


btw...seriously show me a bone stock ls1 dynoing 350+rwhp. never seen one, but would like to if there is one out there somehwere. i searched tech but didnt turn up anything. dyno? pics? anything you can show me?