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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ramair2002 &#064; May 15 2007, 10&#58;30 AM) [snapback]93467[/snapback]</div>
    Do I have to get new lifters going from a stock cam to a .220/.220 .581/.581 115 lsa Comp? I already have the Patirot dual gold springs and titanium retainers and I plan on upgrading rods. Anything else that I may have missed??
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    as long as you don&#39;t exceed the amount of press. a stock lifter can handle you&#39;ll be fine. i know the camaro guys get away with those cams all the time so why can&#39;t you. when you say rods do you mean pushrods?

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(imperial07 &#064; May 15 2007, 12&#58;44 PM) [snapback]93500[/snapback]</div>
    as long as you don&#39;t exceed the amount of press. a stock lifter can handle you&#39;ll be fine. i know the camaro guys get away with those cams all the time so why can&#39;t you. when you say rods do you mean pushrods?
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    Yep, new pushrods. I&#39;m told that they are a must.

    2004 Silverado Crew Cab, forged iron 5.7, STS w/MP turbo, 10+ psi, FMIC, Tial 50mm BOV, Vic Jr, Snow performance meth, MTI Stealth cam .220/.220 .581/.581 115lsa, Comp chromoly pushrods, Yank TT3000 stall, LS1 Efans, 160 tstat, Trucool 40k trans cooler, 60# injectors, Walbro fuel pump, Patriot springs, Built 4l65E w/billet input & output shafts, Eaton posi, SD tuned...all installed by Klein North Automotive

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ramair2002 &#064; May 15 2007, 12&#58;50 PM) [snapback]93501[/snapback]</div>
    Yep, new pushrods. I&#39;m told that they are a must.
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    i know guys that got away with it in the f-bodies and vettes but i would never recommend it cause the new cam will spin the motor higher and faster so they are a good investment and a safe bet for a little extra money. how many miles are on your motor? that also determines if you need new lifters or not.

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(imperial07 &#064; May 15 2007, 12&#58;55 PM) [snapback]93502[/snapback]</div>
    i know guys that got away with it in the f-bodies and vettes but i would never recommend it cause the new cam will spin the motor higher and faster so they are a good investment and a safe bet for a little extra money. how many miles are on your motor? that also determines if you need new lifters or not.
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    I&#39;ve got about 63k on the motor.

    2004 Silverado Crew Cab, forged iron 5.7, STS w/MP turbo, 10+ psi, FMIC, Tial 50mm BOV, Vic Jr, Snow performance meth, MTI Stealth cam .220/.220 .581/.581 115lsa, Comp chromoly pushrods, Yank TT3000 stall, LS1 Efans, 160 tstat, Trucool 40k trans cooler, 60# injectors, Walbro fuel pump, Patriot springs, Built 4l65E w/billet input & output shafts, Eaton posi, SD tuned...all installed by Klein North Automotive

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ramair2002 &#064; May 15 2007, 01&#58;08 PM) [snapback]93503[/snapback]</div>
    I&#39;ve got about 63k on the motor.
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    you should be good, i say should be because we all know mechanical things can go out at any time even with out mods. but you going to love a cam especially with that turbo. is that cam meant for a turbo motor or is that just a off the shelf cam? just curious cause even the cam i have for my LT1 Z28 has a split profile and its for N/A or a small shot, but its a solid roller.

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(imperial07 &#064; May 15 2007, 01&#58;24 PM) [snapback]93504[/snapback]</div>
    you should be good, i say should be because we all know mechanical things can go out at any time even with out mods. but you going to love a cam especially with that turbo. is that cam meant for a turbo motor or is that just a off the shelf cam? just curious cause even the cam i have for my LT1 Z28 has a split profile and its for N/A or a small shot, but its a solid roller.
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    Talking with Allen at Nelson, he says that it is good for a turbo. I think Foggy and several others on this site have the same cam with their turbo.

    2004 Silverado Crew Cab, forged iron 5.7, STS w/MP turbo, 10+ psi, FMIC, Tial 50mm BOV, Vic Jr, Snow performance meth, MTI Stealth cam .220/.220 .581/.581 115lsa, Comp chromoly pushrods, Yank TT3000 stall, LS1 Efans, 160 tstat, Trucool 40k trans cooler, 60# injectors, Walbro fuel pump, Patriot springs, Built 4l65E w/billet input & output shafts, Eaton posi, SD tuned...all installed by Klein North Automotive

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ramair2002 &#064; May 15 2007, 02&#58;02 PM) [snapback]93511[/snapback]</div>
    Talking with Allen at Nelson, he says that it is good for a turbo. I think Foggy and several others on this site have the same cam with their turbo.
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    ok just asking cause one of my camaro buddies has a sts kit and was going to go with a off the shelf cam that was for N2O and it was going to hurt more than help him.

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ramair2002 &#064; May 15 2007, 02&#58;02 PM) [snapback]93511[/snapback]</div>

    Talking with Allen at Nelson, he says that it is good for a turbo. I think Foggy and several others on this site have the same cam with their turbo. [/b]


    Dude--nice cam&#33; Mine is almost the same--check sig for specs... Yeah, like what was said, 7.4 hardened pushrods must be done. Your cam is a good candidate for FI. The 115 LSA will keep it more civilized for DD. Those PRC springs are probably some of the best out there, as well as those Ti retainers. You are definitely building it with the right equipement to go FI. The stock lifter will be fine. Those springs are a very high performance spring. Since they are a lot stiffer than others (Comp 918&#39;s), you will need to be careful with them. They will need a proper warm up period everytime you cold start it. You really shouldn&#39;t start it up, then rap it up to 4k RPMs...you should keep the RPMs pretty low (~2k-2.5k) until normal operating temps have occurred. Your valvetrain will be noticeably louder, only because of the high rate of spring---you will have a louder clickity-clickity from the springs. Nothing to worry about, it is just how they sound. You will be very happy with what you have purchased...

    2000 ECSB 6.0L
    TORQUER V2 CAM ● COMP 918's ● 7.4 HARDENED PUSHRODS ● K&N SERIES 77 CAI ● 80mm BBK ●PACESETTER LT HEADERS AND 3'' ORY ● SUPER 40 FLOW ● 3000 STALL ● 4.10s ● BUILT 80e ● VORTEC PERFORMANCE TUNE ● MSD 8.5mm PLUG WIRES● ELEC. CUTOUT ● UD & ALT PULLEYS ● FLEX-A-LITE E-FANS ● 22" CENTERLINE STINGRAY III's ● LUND FIBERGLASS TONNEAU ● 2" LEVELING SHACKLES ● 12K HID LOWS & FOGS ● LEDs ● DEBADGED ● WHITE-FACED ESCALADE GAUGES ● KICKER 450.1 ● 2-CVR 10's ● DS60's ● K693's

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ramair2002 &#064; May 15 2007, 02&#58;02 PM) [snapback]93511[/snapback]</div>
    Talking with Allen at Nelson, he says that it is good for a turbo. I think Foggy and several others on this site have the same cam with their turbo.
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    YOU WILL LOVE THE CAM. I HAVE THE SAME CAM AND SETUP, EXCEPT A 6.OL. I HAVE A TON OF TQ, AND A LOT OF TOP END. IT NEVER STOPS PULLING. YOU WILL LOVE IT.

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