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    Blackbear?

    Anybody have any experience with a mail in order Blackbear tune for the 4.8?

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    Nelson > Blackbear IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverado_lover View Post
    Nelson > Blackbear IMO
    Is that first hand experience? I'm not knocking Nelson but I also wouldn't throw out an unsupported opinion. There are plenty of people that are very happy with their BlackBear tunes. The fact that they use EFI Live which supports AutoCal is attractive for a lot of people.
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    bias...you do know this is nelsons web site...right....the majority of the guys here will say nelson because he does have a big base here...im for nelson as well....lol
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    No experience with Blackbear here, but yea I have tried Nelson mail tune years back with a magnacharger and it was perfect on the af ratio

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartjo06 View Post
    Is that first hand experience? I'm not knocking Nelson but I also wouldn't throw out an unsupported opinion. There are plenty of people that are very happy with their BlackBear tunes. The fact that they use EFI Live which supports AutoCal is attractive for a lot of people.
    I don't see Blackbear tuning anything more than bone stock trucks really... maybe a few cammed trucks here and there. Nothing over the top, which makes me think that there is a reason he doesn't have that kind of clientele.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pl4yboy View Post
    I don't see Blackbear tuning anything more than bone stock trucks really... maybe a few cammed trucks here and there. Nothing over the top, which makes me think that there is a reason he doesn't have that kind of clientele.
    Wat? Off the top of my head I can think of a bunch of highly modded trucks that they tune.





    This one has a heads/cam FBO LQ9 swap.





    This one is a FBO 5.3 with a blower cam and a TVS 1900.

    Oh, and the OPs truck IS stock.

    Moral of the story is, everyone here seems to have a very strong opinion on who the best tuner is, and most will recommend Nelson due to the nature of the site. But, don't knock another tuner when you haven't personally had a tune from them. They are both very well known and well respected companies, OP, you can't go wrong with either one.
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    I just need a good tune for my daily driver. I don't want to do a re-learn or be without my truck for a week while the pcm is away getting tuned.

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    You can perform the security relearn at your own home by yourself. As far as the crank relearn, you need either a Tech 2 or tuning software to perform the relearn. You'll have to pay extra at the dealer to have the relearn done. A scan cable tune or AutoCal from Blackbear can do the relearn for you saving you the dealer trip/sending your PCM out. The truck will run without the crank relearn, it'll just run like crap and might throw misfire codes.

    Here is the security relearn procedure:

    Insert key, attempt to start the vehicle and leave the key in the ON position.
    In some vehicles, the Battery and Security light will blink for several seconds, and then shut off. Then the Security light will then remain ON. Leave the ignition ON until the Security light goes OFF. This will take more than 5 mins.
    When the Security light goes OFF, turn the ignition to the OFF position.
    Leave ignition OFF for 20 Seconds.
    Attempt to start the vehicle again and leave the key in the ON position.
    In some vehicles, the Battery and Security light will blink for several seconds, and then shut off. Then the Security light will then remain ON. Leave the ignition ON until the Security light goes OFF. This will take more than 5 mins.
    Turn the ignition to the OFF position for 20 Seconds.
    Attempt to start the vehicle again and leave the key in the ON position.
    In some vehicles, the Battery and Security light will blink for several seconds, and then shut off. Then the Security light will then remain ON. Leave the ignition ON until the Security light goes OFF. This will take more than 5 mins.
    Once this entire procedure has been completed (three times) your vehicle will start on the fourth attempt.
    Note: Some vehicles perform the relearn in a different sequence. You may notice your security light, battery light and abs light will alternate. Once the security light is left out of the sequence that is considered one step. Repeat the procedure two more times and on the fourth time your vehicle will start.
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    A heads cam LQ9 is far from over the top. I guess when you hang out on GMFS and the like, you get used to the LACK of performance.

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