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    Whats Next for my truck???

    Well after finally getting my tune dialed in on the truck Im not as impressed as I would like to be.

    So...

    I want to discuss options for my next step.

    Current Set-up:

    Forged 383 ci Stroker
    10.5:1 CR
    Flat-top pistons
    243 heads
    TBSS intake and 90mm TB
    220/220 .556/.556 114 LSA
    44lb/hr injectors and single 255 lph in tank walbro

    4L65E
    4wd
    Circle D 3000-3200 stall
    3.73 gears

    Route 1- N/A

    Bigger custom spec'ed cam
    Same intake manifold or probably switch to LSXRT
    Bigger headers (ARH 1 7/8 probably)
    Retain my current fuel system

    Goal: ~400 rwhp/tq

    Route 2 - Boost on current set-up

    Trick Front Mount (stage 4 kit) 76mm turbo
    Most likely retain current fuel system

    Goal: ~480-500 rwhp/tq

    Route 3- Boost on current motor with boost cam

    Trick Front Mount (stage 4 kit) 76mm turbo
    Custom Spec'ed boost cam
    Probably bigger fuel system

    Goal: ~530 rwhp/tq

    Route 4- Boost with dished pistons and boost cam

    Trick Front Mount (stage 4 kit) 76mm turbo
    Dished pistons to lower CR
    ARP Head bolts
    Cometic Gaskets
    Custom Spec'ed boost cam
    Most Likely bigger fuel system

    Goal: ~580+ rwhp/tq

    Obviously these go in order from least expensive with smaller gains to more expensive with bigger gains. I would like to do a turbo set-up but tearing my motor down to put different pistons in it is going to be a lot more money than leaving the pistons alone. I would be perfectly happy with a N/A set-up probably closer to the 400 mark but dont want to spend the money if the gains I want aren't there. I would also be happy with a turbo on my current set-up or with a boost cam but not sure if its worth it because of my higher CR. Drivetrain mods will come as components fail.

    Discuss and help me decide.
    2003 GMC K1500 ECSB running an Iron 383 Stroker ......

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    Why not just boost on the 10.5:1 cr? Or ifthe compression is such a big deal, don't swap pistons...swap heads. I think that you're so disappointed with your current set up is the cam. That cam normally goes well in smaller motors...people see great results in 4.8's and it's a staple in 5.3's. IMO if you wanna spend the least amount of money get a bigger cam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bangbangskeetskeet View Post
    Why not just boost on the 10.5:1 cr? Or ifthe compression is such a big deal, don't swap pistons...swap heads. I think that you're so disappointed with your current set up is the cam. That cam normally goes well in smaller motors...people see great results in 4.8's and it's a staple in 5.3's. IMO if you wanna spend the least amount of money get a bigger cam.
    What kinda PSI could I boost with that CR? and if I wanted to go with a bigger N/A set-up you think I could hit around 400 with a bigger cam, intake, headers?

    P.S. - current set-up put down 315/347 rwhp/tq (graph is under dynodata)
    2003 GMC K1500 ECSB running an Iron 383 Stroker ......

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    Iron block right? You can boost alot better with iron, even with the 10.5.1. I mean 8 pounds makes a huge difference. Bigger cam imo though, might not reach 400 with just the cam but there is always some wiggle room and you've already got a converter to back it up.

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    How much power am I leaving on the table if I did the the stage 4 kit without changing cams?
    2003 GMC K1500 ECSB running an Iron 383 Stroker ......

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    Can you give more info on the "Flat-top pistons" your using like what there made out of (forged/ Hypereutectic/OEM)?

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    IF you want to lower your compression ratio trade the 243s for 317s. You can get 317s dirt cheap and make a little bit selling the 243s.

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    You only made 317/347 on your set up? That's crazy! It seems way low. I would expect alot more! Try to get a bigger cam and bring it to life! See what that does, if it doesn't work then do what pitch-black said and switch to 317s and do that stage 4 turbo. Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by beingblueeyes View Post
    Can you give more info on the "Flat-top pistons" your using like what there made out of (forged/ Hypereutectic/OEM)?
    forged MAHLE pistons.

    If I did keep it N/A and get a bigger cam you think I would see significant gains from switching to the fast LSXRT manifold and bigger headers? I would do those if I were to do another N/A set-up. I have the TBSS intake and Ebay LTs right now. The majority of the cost in the N/A set-up would be in those headers and manifold so I am wondering if its worth it?
    2003 GMC K1500 ECSB running an Iron 383 Stroker ......

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    There is a thread about switching to a fast intake and true duals with 1 7/8 headers, the gains were pretty significant on the low end, try to search it and take a look at the Dyno graph.
    chevyboy.520
    06 ecsb 5.3, FAST LsxRT 102, FTI cam! LT's, tru dual, magnaflow, 3400 stall, Performabuilt lvl2, 4.10s!
    PRC stg 2.5 5.3 heads Awaiting to go on!

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