I will take this into advice and prob just go with the mandrel bend set up, the Headers are a set of shorties from BBK I picked up for 150 used, (it was that or reuse the stock manifolds) They look to be almost the same size and dimensions as the factory manifolds but I no longer have them to compare, The only reason I was considering using crinkle bend was I was going to have to run all new exhaust from the headers back (cat delete of course) and didnt want to end up dropping 1000 bucks on my exhaust like my last project My wife will literally kill me LOL Thanks Guys