Florian will be back and he'll learn from this, but Forrest is nearing the end of the line with his current skills set. The man needs to learn true boxing defense and punching technique, otherwise he's reached his limit with his striking. His ground game is pretty damn good, but those awful looping punches he throws could be picked off by a three year old with palsy. Griffin should workout with my old trainer, he'd show em how its done
Some thought the Silva fight looked set up the way forrest fell on a pnch that wouldnt have knocked me out. But from reports he suffered a dislocated or broken jaw and loss hearing in one ear so he ran off with the doctor for medical treatment.
Silva is an amatuer boxer, and his technique is superb. Then , on top of that, hes got the perfect body type for picking off crude punchers and fighters who are physically smaller than him (not talking weight here, referring to arm length/leverage and foot stride). Ive said this a million times, but if a great boxer was put in against these mma guys with a good working knowledge of the ground game, he will dominate. Been in sooooo many debates, but trust me on this.
and before anyone pipes in with their specific examples of boxers who've made the transition and gotten blown out, every single one of them was way past their fighting prime and knew nothing about BJJ, grappling, etc etc
i knew something was up with forrest...i just finished his book "got fight" and he's not a quitter...no way that fight was rigged its complete bs.
I disagree. Its seems that the best MMA fighters come from a wrestling back ground. There are plenty of guys in the UFC that were pro boxers first. Boxers need much more work than say a wrestler to prepare for MMA. The explosiveness of wrestlers and shear strength them an advantage. IMOOriginally Posted by Mang213
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x2...fighters making the transition from wrestling to mma have the most success...multiple trainers have said this as well.
That is the state of the game , right now. Silva and these other guys who have really polished boxing skills and are equally devastating with grappling/wrestling will come to dominate this sport. Take the Hughes-GSP trilogy for instance. In their first fight, Hughes was a classic wrestler with subpar striking skills against a good wrestler with ok striking skills in GSP. Hughes won with his ground game and takedowns and went on an awesome win streak with those skills. Then in their second fight, GSP had refined his striking to the point where, all being equal on the ground, he pulled away from Matt and destroyed him. The next era of fighting within this sport WILL be dominated by fighters with way above average boxing technique, along with very advanced wrestling/grappling , and takedowns. Look at all the guys who are actually holding titles for longer than a fight or two. GSP, A. Silva, BJ Penn, Fedor Emelianenko. All of them are the amazing wrestler/ grapplers you speak of, but unlike their peers, they also have legitimate boxing technique. A good boxer is talented at not only throwing his hands with max effect, but also with using his footwork to get into proper position to attack and defend. Besides, punching power comes from your legs and hips, not your hands or arms. All the fighters I mentioned above have superior footwork, which is a direct result of their knowledge of proper punch technique and body angle, as well as wrestling/grappling
were in the machida/silva era thats it.there style is like no other.
Its a style that, like I said, seamlessly blends good boxing and grappling. These guys are probably gonna be around for a long time. Im glad for it too, because they do what all the other fighters dont do. Hopefully, some upcoming challengers will recognize their own deficiencies and step up with some improved skill sets
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