Gm Is Dying:(

[SCIV]

without unions ppl wouldnt be paid what is fair. companies least up here dont pay you for squat for a skill. they think you should make 10hr to be an electrician. without union wages top rate for an electrician is about 15hr. sorry in todays world 15hr cant get you far at all. You complain about benefits and etc. use your 15 hr then take benefits out of it. after al lsaid and done you now make 9hr...answer me...how can you support yourself rather alone a family? dont say have wife work cause then it takes 2 ppl to make combined 20hr.... Unions allow for familys to survive by paying individuals what they are worth for the skill.

How do you think people make it down here in Texas where there aren't Unions to protect them?

[PurpleMinivan]

it seems like you southerners hate unions but at same time have the mentality to support Confederacy. The more I'm on this site the more i see how southerns have totally different outlook on things vs how we see things up here.

What? Where is this going?... again, times have changed... welcome to the 80's

My Dad is a non union electrician... he makes a lot more than $15hr.

Desk Jockey is a skill... you go to school, learn and show ambition and you are rewarded with a nice job/career... and I have an office to myself with a window (not always in the office though) and I work 11-13hrs a day 5 days a week by choice. Continue away at seeing things the way you do... I challenge you to secede the Union; move to a ''free to work'' state and see what I mean. You will get you're spirit back in 6 months and the sun will shine upon you and make you whole again... it's a discussion not an attack and after all it's the facts!

[screamin86]

Im part of the union in the company that i work for and i cant say that i 100% agree with how everthing goes on here but at times it can be good. There are however many lazy good for nothing workers that are employed here and that are on theyre final warnings ect ect and somehow they still work here after all the crap they have pulled. I know if i tried half the stuff i would be gone. I cant say they have done any good for me but i also cannot say anything bad either. Before i came here they had the old timers that did my job making around $30 an hour base rate (not including 10percent shigt differental) the contract was renegotiated and now me and the people that do my job makes about half that. All the 10yr+ guys left on early retirement and got like a 20k bonus and some persentage of there pay everymonth for the rest of there lives!

[gordo]

that was really hard to read. Him buying a tundra just goes to show he has no loyality to our nation. Ive never seen a well built foreign pos. They do however cover up their shawty work with different type of plastic interiors. Their frames and etc are just pure garbage. American IRON and STEEL is much stronger.

fact is bleeding hearts killed our strenght the day they shut the mills down.

yea i kno
the lady that cuts my hair was in the hospital for about 6 months because she was in a car accident with her tundra she showed me the truck and the truk was split in diff sections she even says she doesnt know how she survived that she's currently filing a lawsuit against Toyota


oh n yes if Texas wanted we could be our own country we dont need none of the other states to survive we have our own power grid,ship channels, and just over all resources we are in a better economical state than any other state in the US bcuz we Texans can support ourselves no matter what jiffy comes our way

[gordo]

Im part of the union in the company that i work for and i cant say that i 100% agree with how everthing goes on here but at times it can be good. There are however many lazy good for nothing workers that are employed here and that are on theyre final warnings ect ect and somehow they still work here after all the crap they have pulled. I know if i tried half the stuff i would be gone. I cant say they have done any good for me but i also cannot say anything bad either. Before i came here they had the old timers that did my job making around $30 an hour base rate (not including 10percent shigt differental) the contract was renegotiated and now me and the people that do my job makes about half that. All the 10yr+ guys left on early retirement and got like a 20k bonus and some persentage of there pay everymonth for the rest of there lives!

damn thatz a whole but load of cash we're roofers and i can tell u that its hard, sometimes theres money pouring in and sometimes we dont know wdf to do but i tell u what we managed wit wat we have dude we have crews workin where each buy probably makes about $100 a day if he's lucky depending on the size of the house and the amount of guys in that crew.... but yea we pull our own hard way with our company ABS Roofing

[screamin86]

Im part of the union in the company that i work for and i cant say that i 100% agree with how everthing goes on here but at times it can be good. There are however many lazy good for nothing workers that are employed here and that are on theyre final warnings ect ect and somehow they still work here after all the crap they have pulled. I know if i tried half the stuff i would be gone. I cant say they have done any good for me but i also cannot say anything bad either. Before i came here they had the old timers that did my job making around $30 an hour base rate (not including 10percent shigt differental) the contract was renegotiated and now me and the people that do my job makes about half that. All the 10yr+ guys left on early retirement and got like a 20k bonus and some persentage of there pay everymonth for the rest of there lives!

[screamin86]

Sorry guys double post

[cjriojas]

This isnt going anywhere. We should just stop.

[gordo]

This isnt going anywhere. We should just stop.

no i think its good its just a friendly discussion bout watz goin on

[Frenchy]

^Ya but you're a dumbass, anything close to political gets out of hand on this site.