that is very true too. i guess i will wait until i install my long tubes before i assume that they should be in this week. thanks for the advise guys i really dont want to tear the heads off ive only put 1300 miles on the truck since i put the motor back together. and i did everying by the books, torqued to spec all brand new seals, gaskets, parts you name it! so i hope you guys are right. thanks!