Hydrogen Kit

[85mudblazin]

The heat is the reason for it not being on my car yet. My generator right now is built out of a home filtration setup. Roughly 1' tall by 6" wide cylinder. Yes I am sure its 4 LPM, I had it at 6 LPM running it on 24v but it would boil the water in under 10 minutes. The current setup holds about a 1/2 gallon of the water mixture and will boil after a little over a hour of run time. If I cant get it to cool better I will just back off the number of plates im using and run it with the lower output.

At 4 LPM I can make a mini torch out of it.

[ff_jeff]

The heat is the reason for it not being on my car yet. My generator right now is built out of a home filtration setup. Roughly 1' tall by 6" wide cylinder. Yes I am sure its 4 LPM, I had it at 6 LPM running it on 24v but it would boil the water in under 10 minutes. The current setup holds about a 1/2 gallon of the water mixture and will boil after a little over a hour of run time. If I cant get it to cool better I will just back off the number of plates im using and run it with the lower output.

At 4 LPM I can make a mini torch out of it.

Thats cool. Sounds about right for the boil time. It takes about 80 hours until I have to put more water in it. The style your doing needs allot less plates. 4LPM is allot, and you dont have to have that much to benifit from HHO. It works best at lower levels for a fuel supplement. if your shooting for 10+LPM you might as well convert the whole engine to HHO. I havent noticed any difference in the A/F ratio though. At WOT It does feel a little faster. My a/f ratio before was like 12.8-13.3 now its like 13.1-13.3. But it might not be the HHO. We need to put our heads together and see what we can come up with. I wonder how it will do on the Dyno.

[85mudblazin]

Yea I am interested to see if it makes a difference in your truck, I am itching to put it on my car but just havent gotten around to doing it yet.

[ducky]

chris or jeff, can you give me a quick run through of how this actually works and creates power?

[MKader17]

chris or jeff, can you give me a quick run through of how this actually works and creates power?

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There is an active thread on FSC but they won't provide any information, because I think they don't have it.

Maybe you could answer some of my other questions as well. It is proven that it takes more energy to make Hydrogen through electrolysis than you get when it is combusted (mainly all heatloss I assume). So technically the electrolysis would strain the engine more with its electrical draw than it adds to the combustion chamber. Do you have any ideas/evidence against it?

Also, You are splitting Water and it returns back to that state after combustion as water again. Couldn't you just collect this water and recycle it back through the system? This is what kind of gets me wondering about my first question.

I am still very skeptical of the Hydrogen, mainly becuase I have never seen any true facts about it. Though you seem to be more a respected member than those at FSC. Atleast it gives me a little more security in that you aren't trying to blow smoke up our a$$.

[85mudblazin]

It is just a fuel supplimint.

The hydrogen is produced when DC current is introduced into water. They become excited and split into oxygen and hydrogen in a gas form. These gasses are then pulled into the engine via the engines vacuum, once burnt it will be pushed out of the engine on the exhaust stoke and then turn back into water vapor in the exhaust pipe. SO the whole start with water end with water IS correct but there isnt a easy way to collect the vapors and let them cool back into a liquid, plus its just not worth it since its just WATER.

About the added electricity being pulled not making it worth it. That is not true at all. Depending on the size of the generator most dont pull but 5-6 amps, not any more the stereo in your car.

Thats just a rough run down of how it works.

[ff_jeff]

Hydrogen, in combinations with other electrolyzed gases (actually Brown’s gas), introduced into the intake manifold of your engine, will accelerate the flame spread during combustion, thereby getting more of the vaporized fuel to combust during the initial part of the power stroke. The benefits of the addition of Hydrogen in an internal combustion engine, including a diesel engine have been well researched and documented. Hydrogen has the fuel octane rating of 130.My First 100 mile trip only used 4.010 gallons of fuel that's just about exactly 25mpg I run 93 octane fuel and I filled up until I could not put anymore in ( visible ) and drove 100 miles, filled back up the same way and only put in 4.010 gallons.That's 25MPG!!!I was at 17mpg before. I plan on making a small adjustment to the cell and test again over a longer distance. I am excited!!! I cant wait for the dyno. 25mpg 47% increase in gas mileage no bull ****!!! +8mpg!!!

[txarkitekt]

Damn son! Congrats on your Hydrogen cell build. Serisously, that is really cool that you did this and are seeing some significant, real world results. Hats off to ya man! If you can work with a tuner on something like this to get better MPGs AND more power, I think it might be a worth-while investment for a tuner.

[ducky]

Hydrogen, in combinations with other electrolyzed gases (actually Brown’s gas), introduced into the intake manifold of your engine, will accelerate the flame spread during combustion, thereby getting more of the vaporized fuel to combust during the initial part of the power stroke. The benefits of the addition of Hydrogen in an internal combustion engine, including a diesel engine have been well researched and documented. Hydrogen has the fuel octane rating of 130.My First 100 mile trip only used 4.010 gallons of fuel that's just about exactly 25mpg I run 93 octane fuel and I filled up until I could not put anymore in ( visible ) and drove 100 miles, filled back up the same way and only put in 4.010 gallons.That's 25MPG!!!I was at 17mpg before. I plan on making a small adjustment to the cell and test again over a longer distance. I am excited!!! I cant wait for the dyno. 25mpg 47% increase in gas mileage no bull ****!!! +8mpg!!!

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[MKader17]

Thats great! Have you done any modifications to the PCM? If not, do you think any will be neccessary? I have a little 95 Saturn that I would love to try this on if the results continue. What does the pod that you installed in your truck monitor?

Could you post a little bit more information on how your system works?