I know some of the Hemis come with traction control so maybe that is why you couldnt light up the tires. That could be a good thing at the track for the hemis though. I wonder what kind of gasmileage they get. i get like 15 with mixed highway and city driving. I thought it would be a lot better than that considering i have 3.08 gears. I think the reason my truck runs diecent for a tbi is because it is a standard. I buddy of mine put a stall and a shift kit in his and i can still beat him in the quarter and top end. but he can get me out of the hole my clutch doesnt seem to hold very well. This weekend its going down with my brother inlaw. He has an scsb with 20's and traction control. yes the hemi does come in half tons. Thats how dodge can claim more horsepower than ford or chevy in their comercials even though it doesnt run like 345 horsepower. I think the viper trucks have a traction problem i know 500ftlbs. is hard to put down on street tires. I think they weigh close to 6000.