Thanks for the responses guys. Yea its been 2 trips to the tire shop and pretty much everytime I go to them theres always somthing. Thats the last time, I dont care if I have to drive 30 miles. The brake shop guys lol, welp I wasnt sure of the stock offset and since i didnt have the facts I nodded and said bye. I think the rotors and maybe the clips sounds like a possibility. I have never actualy looked for the clips. They are on the rear rotor at the base of the lugs? Thanks for the help guys