Quote Originally Posted by GasGuzzler View Post
Minus the lift, tires, exhaust, programmer, and only if it's had the injectors done....LOL. That's the main thing, the injectors. I'm really scared of buying an older used diesel from a guy that had a programmer on it but that's just me.

My FIL has a 12-valve Cummins with 200K miles and the original clutch...LOL. The worst thing about the Dodges is the fall apart interior and the horrible auto transmissions.
Yeah, be careful of buying modded used diesels... I would always look on the driver's sode exhaust manifold to see it it was tapped for an EGT sensor. That is an obvious sign that is was modded....

Quote Originally Posted by dared2k View Post
Hand down get a cummins. I worked for my buddy's diesel shop and that things came in all the time with 300 to 500k miles on the original build. They also have a forged bottom end as to where the ford has a PM type rod. i am not real big on a dodge truck but you cant beat the cummins with a 5 or 6 speed IMO. The only thing a dodge really has problems with is the lift pumps get weak and will burn up the fuel pump. Put a fuel pressure gauge on it and you will be good to go
True dat!

Quote Originally Posted by DuBbLe C View Post
i like the 12 valve cummins, u can get major power with some work, i never liked the powerstrokes
The older Cummins 12 valve motors make some stupid torque levels! And since they are old tech, with a programmer, lift pump, injectors, etc--they smoke like a damn freight train...

I am a GM guy through and through--but if it came to an oil burner--I would have to go Cummins!