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    need advice about whipple dyno tune tomorrow

    The new truck goes to the tuner tomorrow but I'm very concerned due to the conversation I had with him today.

    He warned that the:
    - driveshaft can fail
    - tires can come off the rims or explode
    - supercharger belt can shred
    - boost on deceleration can blow the intake off the motor or blow the engine

    Engine Specs:
    2001 Lq4 stock unrebuilt with 80,000 miles
    whipple blower with blow off valve set to stay constantly closed (bypass)
    65 lb injectors, removed whipple computer

    His statement is that as a tuner on a dyno he is going to redline the motor and get it running as fast as possible.

    1) Why did he resist the idea that the dyno be used to dial in the motor at low boost (5 psi) and low rpm where I actually spend all my time driving it? On the street I've never given it more than 50% throttle because after that it just makes more noise but doesnt accel any quicker or it just burns the tires at lower speed.

    2) How likely are the above failures to occur and how can they be prevented?

    3) Am I wrong for thinking that speed limiting the computer to 98mph and keeping the engine under 4000 rpm is a good idea?

    If something breaks minus the belt tomorrow I am completely screwed. This vehicle is my work truck / daily driver and not only can I not afford the downtime but I have no way of paying for a new engine.

    What should I tell the tuner? What procedure should we follow for the tune?

    The only thing I can think of that I will do tonight is put the whipple blowoff on a switch on the dash so I can release pressure before I release the throttle.

    Someone help me sleep tonight because its looking like I'm not going to get any.
    1996 - BIG BLACK: 5.0 | cognito 10+3 | 22/37 toyo | 14B/4:56 w discs | built 4l60e | corbeau
    1999 - OBS SS RICER: 6.0 lq4 | autometer | jdm! | whipple | FLT billet 4l65 | yank | truetrac
    1954 - OLD RED: Chevy 210 - 3 speed | 235 inline 6

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    The driveshaft can let go if it hasn't been balanced for the speed that it will be turning. It might be better to have him dyno in 2nd gear instead of 3rd so top end speed is not as high. Not sure about the rest....

    2004 Silverado Crew Cab, forged iron 5.7, STS w/MP turbo, 10+ psi, FMIC, Tial 50mm BOV, Vic Jr, Snow performance meth, MTI Stealth cam .220/.220 .581/.581 115lsa, Comp chromoly pushrods, Yank TT3000 stall, LS1 Efans, 160 tstat, Trucool 40k trans cooler, 60# injectors, Walbro fuel pump, Patriot springs, Built 4l65E w/billet input & output shafts, Eaton posi, SD tuned...all installed by Klein North Automotive

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    skip the dyno and have him tune it on the street as you drive.

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    So what was the outcome?

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    no problems with the tune, not making enough psi to cause problems with the intake

    hit just over 300 horse and 350 tq at 4500 in second and 500 lbs 350 horse at 3k in 3rd but could not go any faster in 3rd because of my truck tires

    YouTube - inside the truck dyno run

    YouTube - indoor dyno 2

    YouTube - indoor dyno 3

    mustang dyno
    1996 - BIG BLACK: 5.0 | cognito 10+3 | 22/37 toyo | 14B/4:56 w discs | built 4l60e | corbeau
    1999 - OBS SS RICER: 6.0 lq4 | autometer | jdm! | whipple | FLT billet 4l65 | yank | truetrac
    1954 - OLD RED: Chevy 210 - 3 speed | 235 inline 6

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    what was wrong with your tires?
    01 ecsb 5.3 4x4 z71
    Avalanche 17s and a pant load of miles

    61 Corvette
    350, 4 speed, 4.56's

    32 Ford 4 door sedan
    keeping it "stockish"

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    i was doing about 100 mph in second, the truck tires on there arent meant to go much past 120 and to really wind it out in 3rd would have put tire speeds to about 150 mph

    once i get some z rated tires i should be good
    1996 - BIG BLACK: 5.0 | cognito 10+3 | 22/37 toyo | 14B/4:56 w discs | built 4l60e | corbeau
    1999 - OBS SS RICER: 6.0 lq4 | autometer | jdm! | whipple | FLT billet 4l65 | yank | truetrac
    1954 - OLD RED: Chevy 210 - 3 speed | 235 inline 6

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