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    ok, can i use a msd timing retard box so i can retard timing for my nitrous kit. i have a nelson tune for 93 octane so i definatly need to retard timing.

    I dont want to just have it retarded by allen(but wouldnt complain) cause i want full power on the street when not using the nitrous.

    Its set up for a NX wet kit, 150 shot, waiting for the button to be pushed/

    Any info would help,
    Thanks,

    Dan

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    Originally posted by fullthrottledan@Apr 11 2004, 06:23 PM
    anybody???
    I run full timing on my truck and a nitrous shot. I think the key here is a wet shot. When i tune a dry shot, I notice i have to find a happy middle for timing. On a wet shot, even though you're supposed to pull 1-2degs for every say 75shot, I don't and I don't see any detonation.
    Now i don't wanna say spray it, lol, and it break on you.

    but get this, that big ass black HD 6L 2500 truck belonging to blk6.0hd, he has lots of timing in his truck and just sprayed a shit load of n20, over a 200shot!! and he's still running strong.

    just keep an ear out for pinging,


    allen

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    well the reason i was asking was because i sprayed a 150 shot for the first time on your tune, and it ran great. it was such a boost. now im hooked on the stuff. but now the problem is when i went out in the morning, i had unusually large amount of gm's piston slap. my truck never really had it, but now its there. if its not safe, screw it cause im still gonna spray!!!

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    How long does the slap last, I had some slap one time, changed the oil and it stopped, very wierd, but it did.

    I mean it was soooo loud, ppl could hear it across the parking lot, LOL.

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    it lasts like 1 minute. and its LOUD, oh well.

    time for a ls1.....


    BTW, im sellin my rims and getting a turbo, its the last peice i need....then the pcm comes back to you for boost......

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    I asked in another thread about this product, Ramchargers Timing Tuner but no one chimed about it or said they used it before.
    On LS1tech.com several of the f-body guys said they used it and loved it, so I guess I will be going with that coupled with the NOS prgressive controller, still not sure yet.
    I asked Allen if he recommended it with his tune, but he hasn't replied as of yet, I'm sure he's been very busy with that last GP. There was alot of people in on that one
    '01 Sierra 4.8 SCSB
    4.10, Eaton posi, Nelson tune, 160 t-stat, K&N Intake, Magnaflow catback, Vig 3200, Transgo+billets, 100 NX wet shot

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    i say spray. i had 87 timming on my truck with a hypertch programmer. you should be fine with a 150. at the time i had stock plugs a thermo to. Learned my lesson though with nos. got greedy and went 200 maybe 225 i was running dual foggers with like 47 30 jets in both of them. my bottle pressure was at about 1050psi. it hit hard as soon as i hit the button my ass end dropped and hit the notch. i still won the race though. I was just stupid though i should have had the thing tuned and atleast had colder plugs. my buddie was running same set up as me to but he had a 2wheel drive lifted on 36s. He was a little dumber though he ran 87 all the time. it held though... how did that cam ever work out for you???
    old set up: 2002 chevy 5.3, procharger 12lbs boost, asm headers, ls1 edit, flames, 20inch budniks

    New Set up: 2004 chevy 5.3 ext cab, 12 inch twisted suspension lift, 36's, exhaust.
    future mods: 150-200 shot, ls1 edit, air intake, stall, 5.13 gears, 12s or bust

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    I have a stock thermostat, but i just put in tr-6 plugs. still rinning like a champ.

    Blown02,
    Im holding off on the cam till the motor comes out in a few weeks.

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