whipple controler?

[casey23]

I know everyone that has ever had to delt with whipples on chevy trucks HATES the electronics .. alot of people dont even run them when they get a new kit... so whats it take to remove the whipple electronic system if its already installed on a truck so it can be tuned with HPTuners?? a few people have told me they were able to gain 50-70hp going to a custom tune with 36+lb injectors and ditching the whipple stuff... Yes i have talked with Allen on the phone but he has been slammed !! I would like to see something on paper so i dont get lost following a 10min phone call .... KC

damn newbie !! wrong room ! someone please move this for me... KC

[zeake]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Casey23 &#064; Mar 25 2007, 11&#58;59 PM) [snapback]87275[/snapback]</div>

I know everyone that has ever had to delt with whipples on chevy trucks HATES the electronics .. alot of people dont even run them when they get a new kit... so whats it take to remove the whipple electronic system if its already installed on a truck so it can be tuned with HPTuners?? a few people have told me they were able to gain 50-70hp going to a custom tune with 36+lb injectors and ditching the whipple stuff... Yes i have talked with Allen on the phone but he has been slammed &#33;&#33; I would like to see something on paper so i dont get lost following a 10min phone call .... KC

damn newbie &#33;&#33; wrong room &#33; someone please move this for me... KC
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50 to 70 HP wow. How much of a gain should you get if you already have the custom tune and you just remove the whipple electronics and upgrade injecters? Retuned of course.

[casey23]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(zeake &#064; Mar 26 2007, 05&#58;12 AM) [snapback]87292[/snapback]</div>

50 to 70 HP wow. How much of a gain should you get if you already have the custom tune and you just remove the whipple electronics and upgrade injecters? Retuned of course.
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You have what I am asking about... at some point you had to disconnect the whipple controler so it was no longer in control of your system.. install the bigger injectors and the custom tune... my question is what exactly is done to disable the controler ? also I have the yellow light on the dash when the system gets lean .. pretty nice to have any way i can keep it?

[zeake]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Casey23 &#064; Mar 26 2007, 12&#58;49 PM) [snapback]87328[/snapback]</div>

You have what I am asking about... at some point you had to disconnect the whipple controler so it was no longer in control of your system.. install the bigger injectors and the custom tune... my question is what exactly is done to disable the controler ? also I have the yellow light on the dash when the system gets lean .. pretty nice to have any way i can keep it?
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I think these are questions Nelson Perf can answer. I would like to find out for sure. I do like my little yellow light. But I can live without it.

[casey23]

so i take it when u had nelson tune yours all u did was remove and block off the front whipple injectors and remove the harness for the injectors? ... from what i can tell the whipple controler messes with the IAT and total timing alot &#33;&#33;... at cruise speeds i see 40+ degrees &#33;&#33; and 17 under boost and i know it has a vacume operated vlave and also an electronic accuatorthat controls the whipple under cruise conditions and sitting still... All i know is my truck feels like a 10 speed bike I can feel it changing power levels in every gear being lean... due to knock retard... also the truck has pretty decent driveabilty 0-30% everything between 30 and 100% the truck runs like hell...like it lacks power because it does not downshift around 50mph range... so the truck falls on its face since it does not downshift and goes lean under load ... what a POS .. please someone post up something &#33;&#33; i called Allen today and he broke his arm &#33;&#33; so i dunno how thats going to effect his emails or getting on the board and chatting on here .. KC

[zeake]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Casey23 &#064; Mar 26 2007, 09&#58;43 PM) [snapback]87382[/snapback]</div>

so i take it when u had nelson tune yours all u did was remove and block off the front whipple injectors and remove the harness for the injectors? ... from what i can tell the whipple controler messes with the IAT and total timing alot &#33;&#33;... at cruise speeds i see 40+ degrees &#33;&#33; and 17 under boost and i know it has a vacume operated vlave and also an electronic accuatorthat controls the whipple under cruise conditions and sitting still... All i know is my truck feels like a 10 speed bike I can feel it changing power levels in every gear being lean... due to knock retard... also the truck has pretty decent driveabilty 0-30% everything between 30 and 100% the truck runs like hell...like it lacks power because it does not downshift around 50mph range... so the truck falls on its face since it does not downshift and goes lean under load ... what a POS .. please someone post up something &#33;&#33; i called Allen today and he broke his arm &#33;&#33; so i dunno how thats going to effect his emails or getting on the board and chatting on here .. KC
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My Crap is still hooked up. He did tune my truck and what a differance. If he says Horsepower can be gained by getting rid of the whipple crap. I am game. I know what you mean about it falling on its face. The thing that scares me is that I have broken everything except the engine. Tranny to rearend. The rear blew and well it was ugly. My driveshaft was even warped to hell and back. My truck is patiently waiting for a driveshaft right now.
One thing I am curious about is 60lb injecters. I will be building/buying a stroked motor once this one blows. I need it to hang on till next year. I would love to be able to use 60lb injectors so that I can use them on the stroked motor and in the mean time use them on the 5.3. I plan to go all out and get a World Warhawk heads and all and slap the whipple on top of it with the smallest pulley possible and even custom fab an intercooler for it.

[casey23]

My question is... Where is the IAT sensor? and How can u run 9psi with no intercooler and no meth? Numbers look good with the blower and nitrous... 500hp is about all I have ever heard people get out of them...

[TruDynoSports]

The IAT sensor is plumbed at the back of the intake where the stock MAP sensor was located. The nitrous is the intercooler! I do quite a few tunes for 10.5 and L/S cars and I've been using nitrous as an intercooler for a while now.

It makes 445hp and 490tq without the nitrous. That is on a cool day. For hot weather, the timing is pulled even more aggressively for higher IAT's. It's been on the 445hp 490tq non intercooled setup for nearly two years now. The nitrous was just added last week.

[baker7902]

so im running a whipple set up and im pushing 10lbs and making 400 rwhp and 482rwtq with a bone stock motor. i have 42lbs injectors and walbro 255 intank pump so i didnt have to use the whipple crap. it was so stinking hard to tune with that stuff. i want to push it to 13lbs what do you think my hp will be with 3 more lbs?

[zeake]

so im running a whipple set up and im pushing 10lbs and making 400 rwhp and 482rwtq with a bone stock motor. i have 42lbs injectors and walbro 255 intank pump so i didnt have to use the whipple crap. it was so stinking hard to tune with that stuff. i want to push it to 13lbs what do you think my hp will be with 3 more lbs?

If you are not using something to cool the intake temps down you are not likely to make anymore power.



Thread was dead. Dead was thread. So dead that me and Casey23 are so far away from whipples it is ridiculous. Both of us run turbos. Casey has had his truck in the 9's in the 1/4