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    Alright yall. Here’s the problem. Buddy of mine has a 2000 GMC 1500 with the 4.3 L V6 (I think, I know it’s a V6) pickup. Whenever he puts the key in the on position, but doesn’t start it, everything is working fine. Gauges, lights, radio, AC, everything. As soon as he turns the key to start, the fuse marked “IGN C” (ignition C) blows. The truck doesn’t even try to crank. The fuse instantly blows. You can hear the fuel pump running just fine. When the fuse blows, everything except the gauge cluster works. We’ve checked all the wires going from the starter to the battery and alternator. Don’t know if this helps, but last night while working on it, we shorted the courtesy lamp fuse out. That fuse is located directly below the IGN C fuse. We took apart his fuse block to see if maybe we screwed something up internally and that was causing it to short. Everything is fine. We called Napa and O’reiley’s and they both said it has to be somewhere in the fuel injector wiring or the crank wiring that is shorting. I’ve looked at the fuel injector set up and it is one single nozzle mounted vertically in the intake manifold. We don’t know what to do. We’ve checked everything. His battery terminal was very corroded a while ago, but we replaced that with a new terminal and battery and sprayed anti corrosion stuff on there. The positive wire however is very stiff going into the auxiliary battery cable hook up (yall that know Chevy’s, I’m talking about the little red box connected to the power wire on the battery). Please help us. We are out of options. Thanks yall.
    2000 GMC 4.3L 2wd Auto Reg Stepside

    Performance: Volant Cold Air, Flowmaster Duals, Powerraid Throttle Body Spacer, Derale 18" Electric Fan, 180* T-stat, Underdrive pulley coming soon

    Exterior: 3" Body Lift, 31" tires

    Interior: Full painted interior (and I mean EVERYTHING except the cloth)

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    Yikes, electrical problems

    The best way to find the short is to disconnect one thing at a time. For example, disconnect the starter solnoid and try to crank the truck, if it does not blow than you know that the solnoid is shorted.

    Also check the relay in the under hood fuse box.

    Hope that helps. Good luck

    Mike
    '02 1500HD, 6.0L, magnacharger, 2000stall, custom magnaflow with electric cutout, E-fans, Nelson custom tune, Auburn LSD.
    '79 L82 vette, Summit 355, Dart Pro1 heads, Comp 274 cam, Holley TBI, Built TH350 with 2500stall
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    How would I go about checking the starter relay?
    2000 GMC 4.3L 2wd Auto Reg Stepside

    Performance: Volant Cold Air, Flowmaster Duals, Powerraid Throttle Body Spacer, Derale 18" Electric Fan, 180* T-stat, Underdrive pulley coming soon

    Exterior: 3" Body Lift, 31" tires

    Interior: Full painted interior (and I mean EVERYTHING except the cloth)

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    Alright. Here’s what I’ve done so far. I’ve taken the power wire off the starter and turned the key to the start position. Fuse blew. So there goes the starter as a possible source of the problem. What else is there? I’m going to unplug the alternator next and try it then and see if that doesn’t help. I’ve re-run all new wire (4 gauge) thinking maybe the wire was bad (it was corroded pretty bad). I’m going to hook up a piece of 4 gauge wire from the positive post of the battery to the positive on the starter and see if that helps. If yall have any more ideas, let me know. This is really starting to get annoying. I’ve been working on this since 3:00 this afternoon.
    2000 GMC 4.3L 2wd Auto Reg Stepside

    Performance: Volant Cold Air, Flowmaster Duals, Powerraid Throttle Body Spacer, Derale 18" Electric Fan, 180* T-stat, Underdrive pulley coming soon

    Exterior: 3" Body Lift, 31" tires

    Interior: Full painted interior (and I mean EVERYTHING except the cloth)

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    I troubleshot my bro in law's 94 truck one time over the phone, we found the problem, everytime he tried to start the truck he blew that big fuse.
    I'm not sure if it's the same problem, but it ended up being the brake pedal switch, it controls tcc lockup and the brake lights, that was a weird one. Ended up there was a recal on the switch. Give that a try, unplug your brake switch and see what happens, wouldn't hurt.
    I'd do like l82 said,
    it's a pain but,
    un plug everything but your ignition, then one by one, start plugging things in, when it pops, you're that much closer.
    If it's the fuse box, well, all you have is the starter and ignition plugged in, that should get you closer.

    i hate short problems, those are a pita to find.

    good luck and keep us update on your findings, maybe we can help ,


    allen

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    Update. I hooked up a piece of wire to the positive on the battery and ran it to the power wire on the solenoid. The truck fired. As soon as I removed the wire, the truck died. The fuse, however, did not blow when the truck started. I’m going to remove both wires (small purple one and the big one) and see what that does. Keep the ideas coming. Thanks for the help to.
    2000 GMC 4.3L 2wd Auto Reg Stepside

    Performance: Volant Cold Air, Flowmaster Duals, Powerraid Throttle Body Spacer, Derale 18" Electric Fan, 180* T-stat, Underdrive pulley coming soon

    Exterior: 3" Body Lift, 31" tires

    Interior: Full painted interior (and I mean EVERYTHING except the cloth)

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    so you bypassed the ignition and went straight to the starter, hmmm.

    so the ignition switch wasn't invovled or was the fuse box, i think,

    i'd pull all unneccessary fuses , including the fuel relay, and see if you can turn the truck over and over, if so , start plugging things in.

    just a thought here and trying to get some ideas started,


    thanks for the update,

    allen

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    GOOD NEWS!!! I disconnected the big wire from the starter motor (the one that runs into the auxiliary jumping point, AKA the little red box next to the upper radiator hose) and left the purple smaller wire connected. I turned the key to start and I heard a single CLICK. And it wasn’t the fuse!!!!!! So now that I’ve gotten it down to that, do yall think it’s the solenoid or the starter itself? Thanks so much for yall’s help.
    2000 GMC 4.3L 2wd Auto Reg Stepside

    Performance: Volant Cold Air, Flowmaster Duals, Powerraid Throttle Body Spacer, Derale 18" Electric Fan, 180* T-stat, Underdrive pulley coming soon

    Exterior: 3" Body Lift, 31" tires

    Interior: Full painted interior (and I mean EVERYTHING except the cloth)

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    Originally posted by BigBlue@Nov 11 2003, 10:56 PM
    GOOD NEWS!!! I disconnected the big wire from the starter motor (the one that runs into the auxiliary jumping point, AKA the little red box next to the upper radiator hose) and left the purple smaller wire connected. I turned the key to start and I heard a single CLICK. And it wasn’t the fuse!!!!!! So now that I’ve gotten it down to that, do yall think it’s the solenoid or the starter itself? Thanks so much for yall’s help.
    Good deal. It must be the solenoid if you were able to get it to crank by jumping the starter directly to the batt.

    Mike
    '02 1500HD, 6.0L, magnacharger, 2000stall, custom magnaflow with electric cutout, E-fans, Nelson custom tune, Auburn LSD.
    '79 L82 vette, Summit 355, Dart Pro1 heads, Comp 274 cam, Holley TBI, Built TH350 with 2500stall
    '93 Blazer, full size 2dr 4x4, new project.....

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    Sounds about right, i agree


    good job on the troubleshooting, fixing a wire problem/short is very satisfying.


    allen

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