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    Hello, Considering I'm going to go with a mail order PCM from Nelson I was looking for cam suggestions for my 99 step side. Street/strip fair wheather toy.
    following mods;

    Intake-KN
    stock MAF- (I have another one that's descreened but put a stock one back in.)
    stock TB w/bypass
    asp crank pulley-electric fan
    AZ headers with no cats and simms
    BBtriflo Dual behind single muffler catback
    NGK tr55- magnacores
    Yank Torque Thruster 3000 stall
    Built 4l60e-bands,sungear,Hardened input/output shaft,5 P.Planets etc..
    Billet servos-Superior(no shift kit)- firm enough
    Aluminum Denny's Driveshaft
    Eaton HD Posi with GM 4.10's
    Rear tires are 305/45-18 Nitto 555R 28.5" tall.
    Full suspension with Caltracs.
    **No nos planned
    and If ever get seriuos maybe a Radix-prolly not.

    I was thinking only because from what I read
    212/218-522/29-114
    But since I'm getting it tuned 216/220 525/32 114?

    Nelson, What cams have you tuned for with my similiar setup?
    Thanks
    99 Step Side Cardomain
    99 Reg Cab Step side
    03 Ext Cab Z71
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    Originally posted by creederado@Feb 3 2004, 10:36 AM
    I was thinking only because from what I read
    212/218-522/29-114
    But since I'm getting it tuned 216/220 525/32 114?

    Nelson, What cams have you tuned for with my similiar setup?
    Thanks
    I have the same question and add the higher lift/RPM cam in the mix too.

    212/218-558/63-115
    Andrew
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    why do most 5.3/4.8 guys go with smaller(only a comparison to LS1's) cams like the 212/218 cams? ive never seen a truck with a bigger cam like 230/230? is it just coincidence most of em wanna retain gas mileage?

    just curious?

    and i agree with agriefs choice out of the cams mentioned.
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    Originally posted by Sleeper@Feb 3 2004, 01:48 PM
    why do most 5.3/4.8 guys go with smaller(only a comparison to LS1's) cams like the 212/218 cams? ive never seen a truck with a bigger cam like 230/230? is it just coincidence most of em wanna retain gas mileage?

    just curious?

    and i agree with agriefs choice out of the cams mentioned.
    Im running a 224/232-558-568 112LSA, but its in a 6.0. After some tuning from Allen it runs perfect.
    01 4WD 6.0HD- NELSON custom tune/ 224/224-578/578 112lsa synergy motorsports cam / asm's, 3'' to x-pipe, to y-pipe, 4'' top ten flowmaster / smi 9 1/2'' 3500 stall/ smi 4l80e/ intake/ ported t-body (nitrous system) cheater solenoids, 2 fogger nozzles , holley blue pump, regulator and 1 gallon cell

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    Originally posted by BLK6.0HD+Feb 3 2004, 02:04 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BLK6.0HD &#064; Feb 3 2004, 02:04 PM)</div>
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sleeper
    @Feb 3 2004, 01:48 PM
    why do most 5.3/4.8 guys go with smaller(only a comparison to LS1&#39;s) cams like the 212/218 cams? ive never seen a truck with a bigger cam like 230/230? is it just coincidence most of em wanna retain gas mileage?

    just curious?

    and i agree with agriefs choice out of the cams mentioned.
    Im running a 224/232-558-568 112LSA, but its in a 6.0. After some tuning from Allen it runs perfect. [/b]
    Now that&#39;s what the hell I&#39;m talking about, lol. A big cam (compared to most opinions) in a big ass truck Your truck runs awesome, and I love how you put a big cam in your truck and didn&#39;t loose any power across the entire rpm range, most think this big cam would be slow in a big truck. Thanks for giving me the opp. to tune it. btw, email me some of those badass vids, you can show everyone how strong it is.

    I&#39;ve tuned quite a bit of trucks with very mild to aggressive cams, the one you mentioned is fairly small, are you concerned about having a tame daily driver?
    How about a mid 500 lift cam, with something around 224. I&#39;ve done a few of these cams, and if you weren&#39;t into trucks you would never know that it had a cam. It&#39;s very streetable.

    That cam and a tune will give you about .5 secs in the 1/4, asking for more than that is not unreasonable. I tuned a truck with just an ls1 cam in a 99 truck with a tune, and went down to a 15.5 from a 16.1.


    Thanks,

    allen

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    Originally posted by agreif+Feb 3 2004, 11:58 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(agreif &#064; Feb 3 2004, 11:58 AM)</div>
    <!--QuoteBegin-creederado
    @Feb 3 2004, 10:36 AM
    I was thinking only because from what I read
    212/218-522/29-114
    But since I&#39;m getting it tuned 216/220 525/32 114?

    Nelson, What cams have you tuned for with my similiar setup?
    Thanks
    I have the same question and add the higher lift/RPM cam in the mix too.

    212/218-558/63-115 [/b]
    That&#39;s a good cam, go for it, you won&#39;t regret it. It&#39;ll be very streetable and make very good power from idle to at least 6300rpms.

    allen

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    Originally posted by farmtruc+Feb 3 2004, 03:06 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(farmtruc &#064; Feb 3 2004, 03:06 PM)</div>
    Originally posted by BLK6.0HD@Feb 3 2004, 02:04 PM
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sleeper
    @Feb 3 2004, 01:48 PM
    why do most 5.3/4.8 guys go with smaller(only a comparison to LS1&#39;s) cams like the 212/218 cams? ive never seen a truck with a bigger cam like 230/230? is it just coincidence most of em wanna retain gas mileage?

    just curious?

    and i agree with agriefs choice out of the cams mentioned.

    Im running a 224/232-558-568 112LSA, but its in a 6.0. After some tuning from Allen it runs perfect.
    Now that&#39;s what the hell I&#39;m talking about, lol. A big cam (compared to most opinions) in a big ass truck Your truck runs awesome, and I love how you put a big cam in your truck and didn&#39;t loose any power across the entire rpm range, most think this big cam would be slow in a big truck. Thanks for giving me the opp. to tune it. btw, email me some of those badass vids, you can show everyone how strong it is.

    I&#39;ve tuned quite a bit of trucks with very mild to aggressive cams, the one you mentioned is fairly small, are you concerned about having a tame daily driver?
    How about a mid 500 lift cam, with something around 224. I&#39;ve done a few of these cams, and if you weren&#39;t into trucks you would never know that it had a cam. It&#39;s very streetable.

    That cam and a tune will give you about .5 secs in the 1/4, asking for more than that is not unreasonable. I tuned a truck with just an ls1 cam in a 99 truck with a tune, and went down to a 15.5 from a 16.1.


    Thanks,

    allen [/b]
    Im getting ready to put a cam just like mine in my buddies 5.3. A soon as i gt my computer fixed i will send you some vids. Thanks for the awesome tunes Allen. I picked up 3mph with this cam over a 02 zo6 cam. It was at 96mph now its running 99mph in the qtr. Now i need to get the 150 shot on it
    01 4WD 6.0HD- NELSON custom tune/ 224/224-578/578 112lsa synergy motorsports cam / asm&#39;s, 3&#39;&#39; to x-pipe, to y-pipe, 4&#39;&#39; top ten flowmaster / smi 9 1/2&#39;&#39; 3500 stall/ smi 4l80e/ intake/ ported t-body (nitrous system) cheater solenoids, 2 fogger nozzles , holley blue pump, regulator and 1 gallon cell

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    This is the the kind of advise I&#39;m looking for, I have know experience with cams in these trucks so I can only figure on what I have read.


    I only drive it in nice wheather so a Big cam/Big gain is what I&#39;m looking for.
    I have the stall and gears and shorter tires(28.5)

    *222/224 .566-.568 112lsa would tuning be better with a 114?

    or go with blk6.0 cam?
    224/232 .558/68 112- is this a custom cam?
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    Originally posted by creederado@Feb 3 2004, 03:45 PM
    This is the the kind of advise I&#39;m looking for, I have know experience with cams in these trucks so I can only figure on what I have read.


    I only drive it in nice wheather so a Big cam/Big gain is what I&#39;m looking for.
    I have the stall and gears and shorter tires(28.5)

    *222/224 .566-.568 112lsa would tuning be better with a 114?

    or go with blk6.0 cam?
    224/232 .558/68 112- is this a custom cam?
    I just saw your sig, I think on that 99 with a tune and a cam, you&#39;ll be mid 13&#39;s. That would be awesome.

    The 115 is going to be easier to tune, but that&#39;s up to you, there is some sacrifice on streetability, but you&#39;ll get a nice sound with the 112.

    keep us updated,

    allen

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    Originally posted by creederado@Feb 3 2004, 03:45 PM
    This is the the kind of advise I&#39;m looking for, I have know experience with cams in these trucks so I can only figure on what I have read.


    I only drive it in nice wheather so a Big cam/Big gain is what I&#39;m looking for.
    I have the stall and gears and shorter tires(28.5)

    *222/224 .566-.568 112lsa would tuning be better with a 114?

    or go with blk6.0 cam?
    224/232 .558/68 112- is this a custom cam?
    Like Allen said tuning will be easier with the 115lsa. I drive my truck everyday and after tuning i have no problems at all. The biggest problem was getting it to idle, but like i said after the tuning, it drives like it did without the cam. Its funny to see how people react when you pull up in a big truck that sounds like a muscle car .
    01 4WD 6.0HD- NELSON custom tune/ 224/224-578/578 112lsa synergy motorsports cam / asm&#39;s, 3&#39;&#39; to x-pipe, to y-pipe, 4&#39;&#39; top ten flowmaster / smi 9 1/2&#39;&#39; 3500 stall/ smi 4l80e/ intake/ ported t-body (nitrous system) cheater solenoids, 2 fogger nozzles , holley blue pump, regulator and 1 gallon cell

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