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    WILL THIS WORK? I have asked this question in another forum and have been told that it wont work, but have not been given a specific reasons. Any help out there?

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    NO.

    There is no T56 4x4 trans... unless you want to fab up an output shaft ($$&#036 or an adapter for the T-case and a custom input gear ($$&#036.

    If you're hell bent on a manual, get a ZF 6 speed. Gears 2-5 are decently close and it's a VERY strong unit. More-so than a T56 IMO. 1st gear is silly low so it'll be basically useless unless you're pulling a house down.
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    Originally posted by Hit Man X@Jun 20 2005, 03:12 PM
    NO.

    There is no T56 4x4 trans... unless you want to fab up an output shaft ($$&#036 or an adapter for the T-case and a custom input gear ($$&#036.

    If you're hell bent on a manual, get a ZF 6 speed. Gears 2-5 are decently close and it's a VERY strong unit. More-so than a T56 IMO. 1st gear is silly low so it'll be basically useless unless you're pulling a house down.
    Yeah I knew there was never a 4x4 T56 offered, but I figured there was a way to get it in there.

    Why wont the T56 bolt to the transfer case? I thought that the auto tranny connected to the TC by way of a short drive shaft. Im pretty familair with the 4x4 system, thats why I didnt see a problem with the swap. Guess I dont know as much as I thought. Anyway, what is different between the ZF and the T56?

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    Output shafts are different, length of them.

    ZF is far stronger, it comes in 1 ton trucks...
    The superior man is modest in his speech, but exceeds in his actions. - Confucius

    "He who asks of life nothing but the improvement of his own nature, is less liable than anyone else to miss and waste life."- Henri Frederic Amiel

    '01 Chev Z71 LT - '85 BMW 745i TURBO - '88 BMW 750iL - '88 Ford F150 XLT Lariat - '79 MB 240D - '79 MB 280S Euro
    '80 MB 380SE-5.0 Euro - '85 MB 300SD - '87 MB 300SDL - 1990 MB 300SEL - '91 MB 300SE - '91 MB 560SEL

    Let's face it, the red hair... makes 'em wet.


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    Originally posted by Hit Man X@Jun 24 2005, 01:16 PM
    Output shafts are different, length of them.

    ZF is far stronger, it comes in 1 ton trucks...
    Is this the tranny thats on the new diesel?


    Nick

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    Originally posted by SUBURBAN95NI@Jun 26 2005, 10:47 PM
    Is this the tranny thats on the new diesel?


    Nick
    Nah, that ZF has been a 6 speed since the mid to late 1990s. Older ones were 5 speed units. The 1st gear will silly low around 4.40:1 I think it was. Gas and diesel ones have different ratios too... usually the gas ones have a lower 1st gear to make up for the lesser torque.
    The superior man is modest in his speech, but exceeds in his actions. - Confucius

    "He who asks of life nothing but the improvement of his own nature, is less liable than anyone else to miss and waste life."- Henri Frederic Amiel

    '01 Chev Z71 LT - '85 BMW 745i TURBO - '88 BMW 750iL - '88 Ford F150 XLT Lariat - '79 MB 240D - '79 MB 280S Euro
    '80 MB 380SE-5.0 Euro - '85 MB 300SD - '87 MB 300SDL - 1990 MB 300SEL - '91 MB 300SE - '91 MB 560SEL

    Let's face it, the red hair... makes 'em wet.


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    Originally posted by Hit Man X+Jun 26 2005, 11:35 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Hit Man X &#064; Jun 26 2005, 11:35 PM)</div>
    <!--QuoteBegin-SUBURBAN95NI
    @Jun 26 2005, 10:47 PM
    Is this the tranny thats on the new diesel?


    Nick
    Nah, that ZF has been a 6 speed since the mid to late 1990s. Older ones were 5 speed units. The 1st gear will silly low around 4.40:1 I think it was. Gas and diesel ones have different ratios too... usually the gas ones have a lower 1st gear to make up for the lesser torque. [/b]
    So this ZF is the same tranny that was in the C4 and the 93-? Camaros?

    I figured that since the T56 is newer it would be better than the ZF.

    Well when I do decide to do the swap I will check out the ZF.

    Do you have any sources for rebuilt or new ZFs?

    Nick

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    Originally posted by SUBURBAN95NI@Jun 28 2005, 12:12 AM
    So this ZF is the same tranny that was in the C4 and the 93-? Camaros?

    I figured that since the T56 is newer it would be better than the ZF.

    Well when I do decide to do the swap I will check out the ZF.

    Do you have any sources for rebuilt or new ZFs?

    Nick
    Nah, they used T56 also. ZF is a truck trans. ZF is FAR stronger than a T56.

    Check local boneyards, ebay, etc. Older 5 speeds are cheaper.
    The superior man is modest in his speech, but exceeds in his actions. - Confucius

    "He who asks of life nothing but the improvement of his own nature, is less liable than anyone else to miss and waste life."- Henri Frederic Amiel

    '01 Chev Z71 LT - '85 BMW 745i TURBO - '88 BMW 750iL - '88 Ford F150 XLT Lariat - '79 MB 240D - '79 MB 280S Euro
    '80 MB 380SE-5.0 Euro - '85 MB 300SD - '87 MB 300SDL - 1990 MB 300SEL - '91 MB 300SE - '91 MB 560SEL

    Let's face it, the red hair... makes 'em wet.


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