Help: Water In Floorboard

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10-17-2006, 09:50 PM
69chvelle

:help: I opened the passenger side door of my truck today to find water puddled on the floormat. I touched the carpet and it was soaking wet between the floormat and the plastic floor trim. We had about a 4.5 inch rain, but I had not driven during the rain. It is leaking under the dash somewhere. I sprayed water mainly over the cowl and edge of the door. Then opened the door and there was water on the speaker and the small dash panel above the speaker. I removed the panel, but could not tell where it was coming from. I did a search and this is the only post I found:

http://forum.ls1truck.com/index.php?showto...p;hl=water+leak

Anybody had experience with this or know somebody who has? I haven't even had the truck a week yet! :grr: But of course, with my luck, since it is used, the only warranty is on the powertrain and other lubricated parts. I am going to call the salesman tomorrow :bash: and see what he says. I know he probably didn't know about it either, but it would be good for future sales if he would help me out. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

P.S. If this needs to be moved to another forum section, please feel free.
10-17-2006, 10:08 PM
Jamest

I had the same problem a couple of years back. Open the passenger door and look where the rubber gromet is between the frame and the door. The wire harness goes thru it. My gromet came out and it was letting water in. GET SOME GOOD SILICONE and put a bead around the gromet and stick it back in. let it set for a day and it should seal it up. This was my case.

Jamest
10-17-2006, 10:20 PM
RedHeartbeat

be sure to clean out the a/c - heater drain coming out of the firewall. Does the water feel slippery? Your heater core could have ruptured. You didn't have a freeze where you are did you?

Another place to check is the door drains. If they plug up the water fills the door panel up and then eventually runs out the door panel, possibly into the truck. If the door was facing the direction of the driving rain it could fill the door body panel quickly.
10-17-2006, 10:23 PM
69chvelle

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jamest @ Oct 17 2006, 10:08 PM) [snapback]69971[/snapback]</div>

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I had the same problem a couple of years back. Open the passenger door and look where the rubber gromet is between the frame and the door. The wire harness goes thru it. My gromet came out and it was letting water in. GET SOME GOOD SILICONE and put a bead around the gromet and stick it back in. let it set for a day and it should seal it up. This was my case.

Jamest
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I just went and took a look. The grommet is attached well. But I have water above this point, so it can't be coming from there. Thanks for the idea, though. Does anyone know if it could be something to do with the A/C condensation drain? Is this connected to the cowl in anyway?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RedHeartbeat @ Oct 17 2006, 10:20 PM) [snapback]69973[/snapback]</div>

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be sure to clean out the a/c - heater drain coming out of the firewall. Does the water feel slippery? Your heater core could have ruptured. You didn't have a freeze where you are did you?

Another place to check is the door drains. If they plug up the water fills the door panel up and then eventually runs out the door panel, possibly into the truck. If the door was facing the direction of the driving rain it could fill the door body panel quickly.
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Yes, it was facing the rain direction. Where is this drain at? No, I don't think there is any antifreeze in the water, it had to be from the rain.
10-17-2006, 10:30 PM
RedHeartbeat

Was the windshield replaced? The sealer sometimes doesn't get installed correctly and will cause a leak.
10-17-2006, 10:38 PM
69chvelle

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RedHeartbeat @ Oct 17 2006, 10:30 PM) [snapback]69976[/snapback]</div>

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Was the windshield replaced? The sealer sometimes doesn't get installed correctly and will cause a leak.
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Not sure, haven't had the truck long. It could have though. Is there anyway to tell if it has been replaced? Where are these door panel drains you mentioned?
10-17-2006, 10:46 PM
RedHeartbeat

at the bottom of the door. The water often runs down the glass and into the door sheet metal. The drain let the water flow through and then out. If you're parked with the passenger door uphill it could easily drain into the interior due to the design, especially if your door gasket has a split in the seam.
10-17-2006, 10:59 PM
69chvelle

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RedHeartbeat @ Oct 17 2006, 10:46 PM) [snapback]69986[/snapback]</div>

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at the bottom of the door. The water often runs down the glass and into the door sheet metal. The drain let the water flow through and then out. If you're parked with the passenger door uphill it could easily drain into the interior due to the design, especially if your door gasket has a split in the seam.
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The little slits on the bottom of the door are not blocked, so I guess that's not it either. Though the bottom of the carpet on the door is also wet. Is the A/C condensation catch connected to where the water drains from the cowl? This thing could be plugged, but would it be leaking out the side of the dash?
10-18-2006, 12:31 PM
stngh8r

To the best of my knowledge, but not 100% sure ---> If the HVAC drain is plugged, the water will run to the lowest portion of the HVAC system which is likely the blower area.

What did the salesman say?
10-18-2006, 01:16 PM
Red03SilSS

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(stngh8r @ Oct 18 2006, 12:31 PM) [snapback]70078[/snapback]</div>

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To the best of my knowledge, but not 100% sure ---> If the HVAC drain is plugged, the water will run to the lowest portion of the HVAC system which is likely the blower area.
What did the salesman say?
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Agreed. Happend to my old 99 Z71. The carpet is a pain in the ass to finally get fry with that insulation under it. I ended up replacing mine.
10-18-2006, 02:29 PM
69chvelle

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(stngh8r @ Oct 18 2006, 12:31 PM) [snapback]70078[/snapback]</div>

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....What did the salesman say?
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I just called him and he said since the factory warranty was out, then I should just talk to the body shop guys and see how much it would cost to fix it :bash: ! I asked if there were any recalls or service sheets that had dealt with this in the past, so maybe I could fix it myself, and he said not that he knew of, but he transferred me to the in-house body man. The body man was really helpful. He told me some of the possible causes(which most I already knew, thanks to this site) and how to possibly fix it. So I thought that maybe I might be able to fix it. After I got off the phone, the more I thought about it, the madder I got! :tantrum: Considering I haven't had it a week yet! I turned around and called the salesman's boss. We discussed how my parents had purchased several vehicles from them and probably wouldn't be happy when they heard of this. :lol: He told me to bring it right over after work. I hate playing dirty with them, but they do it to us. So, I guess we'll see this afternoon.
10-18-2006, 02:32 PM
Red03SilSS

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(69chvelle @ Oct 18 2006, 02:29 PM) [snapback]70099[/snapback]</div>

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I just called him and he said since the factory warranty was out, then I should just talk to the body shop guys and see how much it would cost to fix it :bash: ! I asked if there were any recalls or service sheets that had dealt with this in the past, so maybe I could fix it myself, and he said not that he knew of, but he transferred me to the in-house body man. The body man was really helpful. He told me some of the possible causes(which most I already knew, thanks to this site) and how to possibly fix it. So I thought that maybe I might be able to fix it. After I got off the phone, the more I thought about it, the madder I got! :tantrum: Considering I haven't had it a week yet! I turned around and called the salesman's boss. We discussed how my parents had purchased several vehicles from them and probably wouldn't be happy when they heard of this. :lol: He told me to bring it right over after work. I hate playing dirty with them, but they do it to us. So, I guess we'll see this afternoon.
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:laugh: You dA MAN! :jump: Now go get that shit fixed for free!
10-18-2006, 02:35 PM
69chvelle

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Red03SilSS @ Oct 18 2006, 02:32 PM) [snapback]70100[/snapback]</div>

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:laugh: You dA MAN! :jump: Now go get that shit fixed for free!
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Cross my fingers, I hope they can fix it. Then I will be :smile:
10-18-2006, 04:01 PM
spinz71

That's weird that the door carpet is wet. Makes me think that maybe someone did some work a speaker or other electrical in the door and didn't get the waterproofing sheet back in place. Thats the only way I could think that water would get up that high. It has to be in the door......maybe. :jump: Good luck with the dealer.
10-18-2006, 04:51 PM
stngh8r

Sssshooott! Thats cool man. Make'em work for dat money!

But hey, If that ends up causing another :hshake: in the future, it will have been worth it to them to treat you right on this deal.
10-19-2006, 05:23 PM
69chvelle

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(stngh8r @ Oct 18 2006, 04:51 PM) [snapback]70123[/snapback]</div>

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...But hey, If that ends up causing another :hshake: in the future, it will have been worth it to them to treat you right on this deal.
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Well, I seems to be fixed. There was a place in the top corner of the windshield that had not been properly sealed when the windshield was replaced. It was running down the a-pillar and into the corner of the dash, down the speaker and into the floor. They fixed it within 15 minutes of my arrival. The bossman had sent my salesman out to watch while they fixed it. He didn't seem to be to happy to be out there. :laugh: Probably because I went over his head and he got in trouble. I would deal with them again, but I will use another salesman next time.