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Ok, I know there is a lot of talks on cams on here and what cam people are running. I just sent Nelson an e-mail for a price on a Cam Kit, it would be $745 for mild cam - push rods and springs. Is this about normal or fair? Does anyone else have a cam from Nelson? I am also looking at a Comp and a Lunatti Voodoo. I was told this would add 40 - 50 hp to the crank which is pretty impressive!
Depends on what cam you get. What specs were you looking at?
Either way, gonna need a retune and a stall too (not needed for every cam but u will be impressed). My 33's love the comp cam 224/224, 3200 stall, and 4.10 gears.
Check the for sale adds too. Always a lot of cams there. Then just get some springs and push rods.
Cam usually cost $425 new, about $100 for pushrods, and $200 ish for springs so the package sounds good plus Allen will spec a cam for you particular set up and he can tune the PCM as well.
I want more low end torque and power than mid to high end rpm's. Seems like most of the cams are mid range to high rpm for power. In regards to springs and pushrods, the truck I have only has 80k on a 2003, is it really necessary to change them instead of the cams alone?
First of all our trucks only have ONE cam not
multiple CAMS if yours has more than one you
might be on the wrong forum.....
And it's not that your springs and pushrods are
bad it's that with a new cam your springs will
more than likely be maxed out on their lift therefore
you need different ones that can handle the extra lift
hopefully this helps a little for ya
Allens pricing is pretty well dead on. I belive I payed more then that for my cam kit. And as stated above the stock springs and rods are no designed for the increased lift and the pushrods aren't made to handle the extra abuse either. That is why its wise to change them all out. Last thing you want to do is break a spring causing your valve to hit the piston breaking the piston in turn shreading your motor... all cause you didnt wanna change a spings. Plus with a good cam and stall your truck will feel like a WHOLE different animal
I do realize the truck has "one" cam but the term cams is speaking of multiple cam(s) available to buy on the market. I of course will only be buying one new one :0)! But thanks for all the information, its very helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by conekiller01
I guess I am asking because I called Comp Cams to asked about the best cam for my truck and they recommended the XFI Extreme Truck and I asked about replacing the springs and pushrods and the tech support guy says "It will just need a spring and retainer kit, but the pushrods will be fine". I am just trying to do it right the first time and get ALL the needed components.
As far as a stall goes... Any brand recommended and what range to get it in (rpm's wise) and costs? Keep in mind I am going for torque and low end more than maxing out the rpm's! I appreciate the help as I just joing this awesome site! I go hunting a lot and do use the highway and love to cruse at 80mph even though just makes me stop for gas more!
Yank 2600 stall and get some hardened pushrods so ur stock ones dont break under load...
95% of the aftermarket cams out there will move your powerband slightly up, but you make this up with a higher stalling torque converter (not a stall converter, that's starting to bug me). The LS motors aren't real bottom end monsters, yes they can make gobs of torque but not til 3000 rpm or so.
Circle D would be te way to go for a torque converter. The rpm range would depend on the cam, but a normal range would be 2800-3200. I'll be getting a 3200 for my 219/230 cam.
Your 1500HD has a 4L80E, right?
Around 3000 stall works very well with any low/mid cam. If the cam was designed to not need a stall it will feel just right.
I think I would just like to have a cam that would fit right in, so hopefuly Nelson can do that. As far as price, they all seem to be around the same give or take a few bucks. Any likes or dislikes for a company. Right now it is between Nelson Performance and Comp Cams. Looking around $800 as a kit but I asume I can get a custom for my truck and better advice from the NP. Thoughts?
Patrick G specs out good cams for future stuff as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by OCHOA505
And just for the record Nelson Performance is just a shop. Allen will just spec out and order your cam from whoever he deals with, it's not a "Nelson Cam" it'll be a Comp or EPS or whoever. I dealt with Pat G when I got mine spec'd out and EPS ground it.
You can save alot of money if you just look for good used stuff. If you are really wanting to not loose much on bottom end Id probably look for a used tr220 on a 112 for about $200. You can find used hardened pushrods for around $75 and then just get the patriot valve springs new. I found my cam brand new in the box but someone bought it years ago and never installed it. Got it for $250. Just got to look around. Check ls1 tech classifieds too.
I don't know how comfortable I am buying used pushrods. They'd probably be fine... but for just a little more money I'd buy new ones. But +1 on buying a used cam.