Is there any certain things that need to be different to run e85 over regular 93 pump gas? We have 4 stations that carry it in San Antonio so I am thinking I would like to run that if possible.
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Is there any certain things that need to be different to run e85 over regular 93 pump gas? We have 4 stations that carry it in San Antonio so I am thinking I would like to run that if possible.
im running my walboros with no issues on e85. theres a lot of urban myths on e85, your best bet is to visit sites like proe85racing.com and etc
thanks ya i found some more if anyone else is wondering. http://www.e85performance.net/forums/index.php
http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=73061
E85 is great.
our tahoe can run it, and goes from like 16mpg, to 8. It's an 02, so was the first year gm really tried their hand with it. I'm sure it's got better, but it's only like 10cents a gallon cheaper out here, not worth it IMO. I know a few guys who put HUGE injectors in their turbo imports, so they can run the stuff. They think it's great, because they can run more timing or something. If the truck was actually tuned for e85, and not BOTH, I think it'd be worth it...but I know my buddy's car runs like complete garbage on his e85 tune when he puts regular gas in it.
What pumps do you have Mark? How much power you planning on making? You have injectors yet?... I hope not lol
Well I am trying to figure all that out. I have now read that e85 requires much more fuel than gas. I was looking at the 4301 Magnafuel. As fare as power there really isnt a set number in my head. I am looking to max out the boost at 15ish. Depending on how that works out with the 10:1 compression. Injectors going for some low impedance 95lbers. I am just looking into the e85 thing. I guess Torco and 91 would be ok. I am just looking at what I need for the fuel system regardless of e85 or gas. I just want it to be the optimal set up for a street/strip truck.
im using 60s at a base of 68 with dual walboro f20000's [high pressure models]. they rate the injectors at 75lbers.
FicInjectors sells 103lb injectors for 550 with pigtails. that should be plenty to handle what your wanting to do. E85 is great stuff, smells great, great octane, great cooling characteristics, and its ability to resist knock.
just tune for .82 lamba and youll be safe
it also keeps your oil clean much longer, internals of motor wont be so carbon'd up, youll notice the tailpipe being a gray instead of black
as for using that much more fuel, you can tune the setup to get decent mpg. Of course in boost its going to drink that fuel
i kinda go back and forth on wanting to use e85 on my truck...
it has its positives, but also plenty of negatives
Yeah nothing like being on a road trip and not being able to find of the 11 e85 stations......
Depends where you live, midwest has alot more e85 stations than anywhere else in the country.
biggest down falls are lack of availablity, requires larger fuel supply, uses more fuel
now the Pros are endless. to make 10-15% more power at same level is just insaneQuote:
Originally Posted by sprayedenali
8 stations in Oklahoma have e85. Hows that for availability? lol
another option is to get drums of E98. E98 is much more potent and is purer
One of these e85 vehicles plates should read "corn fed"
How about cornntz :lol:
I'm about to buy these injectors and do the swap myself... http://www.injectordynamics.com/ID2000.html. I'll buy E85 or E98 buy the drum to ensure the purity... Most stations say E85 but it's really E68-E78. I fill up by the drum as it is now lol, it's not that bad when the gas smells sooooo gooood!
Because of the fact that e85 actually fluctuates in methonal content like it does, is because the government doesn't have it regulated as it does with regular pump gas. That combined with the extreme difference of mixture percentage depending on the time of year make it fairly unpredictable. You can bring a methonal content testing strp with you every time you fill up, and tune accordingly. Or, you can run one safe tune which will be around.70 lambda. It will run rich with some mixtures, and just right with others. Race fuel companies regulate their e85 very well, and are always consistent. Buying drums from them is highly recommended. A 105 octane rating, and a 15% power gain just by switching from pump to e85 is very worth it. Plus, combustion chamber temps reduce significantly. E85 simply has way more pros, than cons.
Wher are you going to get drums of e85 & e98? Just wondering. I am still doing the reading up on this. So nothing else is needed other than more fuel supply. ie. meaning needs bigger pump, more injector, and larger hoses. Correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by PurpleMinivan
When you buy everything make damn sure it's alcohol compatible. It will eat through anything not meant to handle it.
At the fuel getting place lol, J/K... no my fuel guy... Sunoco is what I've been using. Just gotta think of it like this... You need 30% more on average in all of the following: Fuel pump/fuel flow, injector, fuel in the tune... so make sure you go up more than 30% on your pump, flow, and injector to have room to grow... and by flow I mean volume not pressureQuote:
Originally Posted by SLO TRUCK
Kurt (and anyone else), after a metric ton of reading about it. I am guessing that this set up will work. I want to run the magnafuel 4301 pump with #10 line with filter in front and after the pump. I don't know if at the rails it needs to "y" or in one rail crossover then the FPR and return #8 to the tank. Also I haven't read much as far as the tuning. Is it harder to tune on it or follow the same protocol?
I dont think there's much more to the tuning, add fuel and timing.
I noticed know one said using a E85 kit, like white lighting sells. Are they no good? I want to make my truck run E85. Cant you get by with just bigger injectors and tune? I got E85 pumps everywhere not a problem there. I had a old 91 ranger with a 2.9 i ran E85 in it I didnt do anything to it ran for years with it. People use E85 to pass emissons and pass with out a cat even.
From what i have read is that the main issue is just getting the the extra 30% fuel to the cylinders. The only reason i want it is because of the price of that vs. race fuel.
just enough gas in it to keep it from being moonshine!:spit:Quote:
Originally Posted by Quik
Your injector size X 1.47 = that will be what you need for injectors for E85