24 valve Cummings!

On my way home cruzin along, not in a hurry, just enjoying a nice night drive home. A cop had a white dodge pulled over and by the time I was going by the cop left and the dodge was about to pull out. So here I am with this dodge following pretty close and I'm just like whatever, still cruzin. I get to stop sign and I notice he follows me so I give it little and jump up to 60 then slow down to the speed limit and he gets on my ass again. So I turn down my road and he still follows me, so now he is right on my ass and looks likes he wants to pass so I keep it at 45. The next thing I know he smashes on it and moves to pass. As soon as he gets to my cab I smash on it and he has the jump and pulls by and he gets his tailgate to my front bumper. His truck was loud as hell and dumping out a ton of smoke! For a second I thought he was going to keep pulling on me but my 2nd gear pulls hard as hell and I caught him and just fly by! It was nice showing him what's up!

Cummins....

Luke beat me to it. Must have been one of those dummies who think just puking black smoke makes them fast.

My bad, my phone was auto correcting it, and I know that just cuz it blows smoke doesn't make it fast, but this thing had some balls, he was pullin hard till about 80 when I caught him, im sure he had a programmer and exhaust. Nothing special, but whatever

ROR! programer and exhaust if thats all he had he wouldent beable to catch a honda :LOL:

good you showed him whats up with a chevy lol. but i wouldnt put it past smoke blowers, some put out some power even with just programmers and exhaust, banks for example., they're just not great for racing

Very nice kill. I have a buddy with an '02 24 valve that thought he was hot stuff. That is until he challenged me, and got walked by what was then a stone stock red Chevy 1/2 ton. Most guys that have Cummins don't understand enough about them, or diesels in general for that matter, to do anything except make them loud and waste tons of fuel making smoke.:twocents:

I would love a Duramax though, this little red chevy can't tow for $#!t.

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good you showed him whats up with a chevy lol. but i wouldnt put it past smoke blowers, some put out some power even with just programmers and exhaust, banks for example., they're just not great for racing

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Yall are way off on this subject. I just got out of the whole diesel trip and they are FAST!! There are many of them cummins with just a chip or two and exhaust running 13's, but it aint banks crap. That stuffs a joke! An as for them not being good for racing, they are turning times just like the fast turbo gassers, i believe the fastest common rail cummins is in the 9's and its a street truck as well. Not siding with them or starting a war with yall just stating the facts. There is actually an 11 sec one from bryan college station an its his daily driver.

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Yall are way off on this subject. I just got out of the whole diesel trip and they are FAST!! There are many of them cummins with just a chip or two and exhaust running 13's, but it aint banks crap. That stuffs a joke! An as for them not being good for racing, they are turning times just like the fast turbo gassers, i believe the fastest common rail cummins is in the 9's and its a street truck as well. Not siding with them or starting a war with yall just stating the facts. There is actually an 11 sec one from bryan college station an its his daily driver.

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not to be a dick but... do u relise the money it costs to go 9's in a common rail cummins? ANYTING with that much turbo can go 9's, cummins are crap and you can quote me on that! find a cummins with the same mods as my duramax and see if he can keep up cus he cant. a stacked chip truck isnt close to fast, if you think 13's are fast you need a reality check... im bearly in the 12's and thats still slow. yes im stock engine stock injectors stock fuel pump i have a built trans a mild tune intake and exhaust thats it. Most these cummins think there fast cus they watched fast and the furious and though a nissan altama could run 9's :LOL: so once they beat one, there worse than ricer math called "white trash math" made them think they were fast

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I donno... I've seen some bad ass deisels. It's never really about what you have it's about how much money you can throw at it. I had a buddy with a turbo gsr integra crush a viper, and I've had my ass handed to me by a cummins in my gf's 09 si. Which I couldn't keep up with until recently. Yea it doesn't really "feel" fast except in first gear when you crack vtech, but it revs like a freakin street bike and doesn't weigh anything. A modded deisel with 12 1300 ft lb's isn't going to have a problem pullin an 8000 pound truck around. But I guess it's all about weight gears and power, just need a good combo..

yeah there a plenty of bad ass diesels but most of the ones you see have stacked chips, exhaust and intake and think there fast when they arnt lol. I would like to think my truck is decently quick since im now dipping in the 12's but imo its still not fast... i want to go 11's but i need a bigger charger and injectors most likely

It's only fast if you need some extra tubing in the cab. And as far as diseasels go if I wanted a fast one, DMax. If I wanted a pure work truck, Cummins. It comes down to the V8 vs I6 and pure engine geometry/physics.

yea someting torqi about the I6's.. cummins is a true work horse. But hell just the I6 in general normally turn out to be pretty reliable motors atleast they used to be i don't know baout theones out these days. But the old ford and chevy 6's and jeep 4.0 good motors. My grandfather had a 70 f100 with a 6 and 3 on the tree drove it for 29 years never had to replace the motor. BMW makes a bad ass 6 as well, M3's are fun cars to drive, not really a whole lot of power mine stock dyno'd around 220 but the gears make the best of it.

ive got to see a video or something. Never seen a dmax run 12's on tune intake and exhaust. Mild tune at that! I call bs until you show me otherwise. Yes i do realize that it takes alot of money to go 9s in a cummins but havent seen a dmax do it. An it still takes alot of money to make gas trucks turn 9's. Your the one talking all this crap about people being fast and the furious wathcer and followers, um buddy look at your lp and sig under your name. I think you may have watched it to much yourself. An no matter what you say 13's is pretty fast for a almost 9000lb truck. An the only reason cummins have to "stack chips" is not all chips do one thing like they do on dmax's. ie Juice w/ att stack with ez , juice does timing and duration and ez does pressure. So now you have a hard fueling truck.

An you also need to realize that yours is tuned by laptop at what you want it to be cummins doesnt have that option "yet". So i bet you any amount of money once they come out with that an they can turn up a cummins like you can it will be equal an the cummins will walk you all day and night. An im willing to bet your truck gets stupied HOT egts. The only fuel pump cummins need is a lp because dodge makes crappie parts.


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ive got to see a video or something. Never seen a dmax run 12's on tune intake and exhaust. Mild tune at that! I call bs until you show me otherwise. Yes i do realize that it takes alot of money to go 9s in a cummins but havent seen a dmax do it. An it still takes alot of money to make gas trucks turn 9's. Your the one talking all this crap about people being fast and the furious wathcer and followers, um buddy look at your lp and sig under your name. I think you may have watched it to much yourself. An no matter what you say 13's is pretty fast for a almost 9000lb truck. An the only reason cummins have to "stack chips" is not all chips do one thing like they do on dmax's. ie Juice w/ att stack with ez , juice does timing and duration and ez does pressure. So now you have a hard fueling truck.

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You must not be looking, a built trans, intake, exhaust, and custom tune on a D-max equals 12 second truck. Its the only diesel that can do that, and all due to the biggest fuel system STOCK, the 6.4 powerstrokes are the only thing close, cummins are overrated, straight up they are. There the slowest, and the only reason they "feel" torquey is due to the location of the turbo, CLOSEST to the head where the exhaust gets to the turbo faster. My buddy had a stacked 04.5 cummins, he smoked everything, well except powerstrokes and D-maxes, and then his tranny blew up. The fastest diesel out there is a D-max.

show me a video clip of the fast dmax an NOT DRAG TRUCK dmax. Cause i know you are talking about that orange one which is a straight up drag truck! Um yea dmaxs smoke allisons an cv shafts all the time so that no excuse. An what big fuel system does a dmax have cause its not the injection pump.

A D-max will smoke a Allison at a power level much higher than what a stock dodge or ford tranny would handle, CV shafts? Fuel system is more than just the "injection" pump, its the injectors too. http://www.duramaxforum.com/forum/dr...cond-club.html

Ok now go through there and read the sig's. They all have efi live which is like stacking chips on a cummins because no one makes a chip that fuels as hard or does anything to the computer like efi live can. Then also read that ALL of the trannis are upgraded, do the same upgrade to the dodge and it last the same. An also look at the hp they are putting down. A cummins with stacked chips and lift pump will do the same. An as for the fuel system they are still upgradeing there lift pumps like you have to do for a cummins, the injection pump is the same exact one the cummins has (CP3) and the cummins injection system is the strongest in the common rail 04.5 up they have three injection cycles. An you show me a page of 12 sec time slips, go to you tube and type in fastest dmax its like 11's or high 10's and then type in fastest cummins should show a pewter dodge with orange stuff on the side, he broke 9's

I can't take people seriously who type anything LiKe ThIs

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Oh yes i AM going to answer ALL of this!

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ive got to see a video or something. Never seen a dmax run 12's on tune intake and exhaust. Mild tune at that! I call bs until you show me otherwise. Yes i do realize that it takes alot of money to go 9s in a cummins but havent seen a dmax do it. An it still takes alot of money to make gas trucks turn 9's. Your the one talking all this crap about people being fast and the furious wathcer and followers, um buddy look at your lp and sig under your name. I think you may have watched it to much yourself. An no matter what you say 13's is pretty fast for a almost 9000lb truck. An the only reason cummins have to "stack chips" is not all chips do one thing like they do on dmax's. ie Juice w/ att stack with ez , juice does timing and duration and ez does pressure. So now you have a hard fueling truck.

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First off i dont have to have video proof of my truck running 12's and the best i could do is a vid of me running 13.3 @100mph and that's on facebook so idk if you could even see it. Also yes i am on a mild tune i have ZERO smoke at WOT im actually getting a new tune tomorrow and hoping for a 12.5 (record stock turbo stock injector dmax is a 12.3)
Yes i have the fast and the furious memorized and i think that is a hilarious quote not to mention my race truck i am building is going to have a big shot on it, friend made the joke get "2soonjr" custom plates and i liked the idea
a cummins running 13's aren't going to weight 9000lbs
LOL hard fueling.... black smoke is BAD! those trucks are over tuned yes i have EFI live and my tuner can dial my truck in to make optimum power, sorry cummins guys are to stupid to make a tuning program... btw efi live is releasing software for the newer cummins. Also like to add my peak psi is 32 a cummins runs about 40 stock... and my 13.3 sec pas was with 26 psi 3psi above stock...

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An you also need to realize that yours is tuned by laptop at what you want it to be cummins doesn't have that option "yet". So i bet you any amount of money once they come out with that an they can turn up a cummins like you can it will be equal an the cummins will walk you all day and night. An im willing to bet your truck gets stupid HOT egts. The only fuel pump cummins need is a lp because dodge makes crappie parts.
Like i said about there already over tuned... yes they will probably be able to turn the tune down some and make some better numbers but not much, there's plenty off ppe chipped trucks running 12's on stock turbos and injectors.

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Like i said about there already over tuned... yes they will probably be able to turn the tune down some and make some better numbers but not much, there's plenty off ppe chipped trucks running 12's on stock turbos and injectors.
Also think its funny how you talk about all a cummins needs is a lp because they have crappy parts? that makes no since all a lift pump does is supply the cp3 with positive pressure (10-14 psi is ideal) any pump would get worn out trying to pull fuel from 0 psi and turning around to put out 25,000 psi+ rail pressure. also the dmax and cummins run bosch cp3's only the dmax's has a bigger capacity

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show me a video clip of the fast dmax an NOT DRAG TRUCK dmax. Cause i know you are talking about that orange one which is a straight up drag truck! Um yea dmaxs smoke allisons an cv shafts all the time so that no excuse. An what big fuel system does a dmax have cause its not the injection pump.

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Im not 100% sure who's is the fastest right not, i know trent is running low 10's theres also dimitris truck which has gone low 10's who also wont the diesel power challenge this year! http://www.duramaxdiesels.com/forum/...esel+challenge

also any diesel in the 13's will need a trans, a friend of mine's cummins had to have one before he broke out of the 13's. he has ats trans airdog 150 and i cant remember what hips he has but he runs a respectable 13.4 but guess what? im faster with the same mods...

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Ok now go through there and read the sig's. They all have efi live which is like stacking chips on a cummins because no one makes a chip that fuels as hard or does anything to the computer like efi live can. Then also read that ALL of the trannis are upgraded, do the same upgrade to the dodge and it last the same. An also look at the hp they are putting down. A cummins with stacked chips and lift pump will do the same. An as for the fuel system they are still upgradeing there lift pumps like you have to do for a cummins, the injection pump is the same exact one the cummins has (CP3) and the cummins injection system is the strongest in the common rail 04.5 up they have three injection cycles. An you show me a page of 12 sec time slips, go to you tube and type in fastest dmax its like 11's or high 10's and then type in fastest cummins should show a pewter dodge with orange stuff on the side, he broke 9's

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first off you arnt going to find the fastest truck using youtube, theres plenty of guys out there running cummins and dmax's that dont post on youtube, hell i dont post on you tube! what you are missing on that "both truck have same mods make the same numbers" is the dmax is still faster, you have to look at the complete dyno graph to see who is making power across the board my tuners truck made within 50hp from 2000rpms to 3500 i think was the pull. Also never heard of many people breaking cv's tie rods yes but they make selves and that fixes the problem for the most part a cummins will also make lots more TQ than the dmax with (helped by that I6) i could keep going on and on but its kinda point less

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A D-max will smoke a Allison at a power level much higher than what a stock dodge or ford tranny would handle, CV shafts? Fuel system is more than just the "injection" pump, its the injectors too. http://www.duramaxforum.com/forum/dr...cond-club.html

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ohhhhhhh yeah :thumb:

GM's 5.7 diesel was there best ever because it was a converted Olds BIG BLOCK. Tee Hee

Ive always enjoyed the diesel debates. Since I know nothing about diesels, usually people post good information rather than the same useless ford vs gm garbage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwEX_VZI8zw

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Sick truck! You should get a video of your truck posted up

I have been in Lukes truck. Its fast

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Sick truck! You should get a video of your truck posted up

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I was going to go to a sled pull today but might not get to go, my friend was putting headers on his dmax and ran into some problems, got to see if we can get it done before we go

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I have been in Lukes truck. Its fast

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I have a good friend of mine that lives in Rosenberg and drives a 98 24v with turbo upgrade, built trans, fuel system, timer, stacked chips and 4''/6'' stack in the bed, and he runs 13s at seally. His truck used to pour smoke out but the last time he went to the track he had it turned up to where it gives just a little puff when he warmed up his 33'' slicks. He's not wasting any fuel. Other than that, his stack looks like the outlet end of a jet engine. and that truck isn't fast from a stop, but rolling, its like a rocket ship.

black smoke= unburned fuel

I know theres alot of fast trucks in texas, but i think you boys could come up hear and learn some things about diesels...

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oh dont worry theres plenty of diesels in texas that will whoop my but, so ill just not waste my money coming up where?
for the most part though im the fastest diesel that i know of in my are, hell i raced a built lightning last night (a 12 second one) and raped it from a dig he had some traction problems but he didnt start pulling back on me till 80~ but he was way to far behind to make a difference :lol:

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oh dont worry theres plenty of diesels in texas that will whoop my but, so ill just not waste my money coming up where?
for the most part though im the fastest diesel that i know of in my are, hell i raced a built lightning last night (a 12 second one) and raped it from a dig he had some traction problems but he didnt start pulling back on me till 80~ but he was way to far behind to make a difference :lol:

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It was probably a clone

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It was probably a clone

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oh yeah probably was, the wine that i heard from the engine bay when i was riding in it erlier that night must have just been a slipping belt LOL

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oh yeah probably was, the wine that i heard from the engine bay when i was riding in it erlier that night must have just been a slipping belt LOL

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Let him now he should check his power steering pump, the fluid might be low :)

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let him now he should check his power steering pump, the fluid might be low :)

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lol

9 second dmax... that is all
http://www.duramaxdiesels.com/forum/...ad.php?t=24543

you guys have a heated thing going on over diesels. id go for a D max over a cummins. i ran into this cummins again today on four lane road, we were side by side, and he didnt want anything to do with me this time around, i must of made him think twice about messin with my truck, lol

LOL way to put him in his place! :thumb:

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9 second dmax... that is all
http://www.duramaxdiesels.com/forum/...ad.php?t=24543

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At 6500 DA to say the least. I wanna see a video.. EDIT after further checkign I found the video. Evidently its really hard to put an allison transmission in the 9s?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBRf6...layer_embedded

It is really hard to do, most guys like trent run a 1st gear lock out and some other things to help but its still not easy