Anyone used one of these? I was reading Greg Banish's book about tuning and he speaks highly of their accuracy. The price for one is very fair. Its made by NGK and they make lab quality wideband sensors that hold 1% accuracy.
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Anyone used one of these? I was reading Greg Banish's book about tuning and he speaks highly of their accuracy. The price for one is very fair. Its made by NGK and they make lab quality wideband sensors that hold 1% accuracy.
How much
$250 on Ebay. I paid more than that for my FAST unit on Ebay.
i got a question! is narrow band even worth havin?
Red you read the wide-band shoot out over at PT.net ?
The Innovate product won hands down .
I have seen several VE tables done with other brand wide-bands and they are most of the time spiky , but that could be the tuner , data , filters , but everyone likes what they like , and any wide-band is better than a narrow-band . My2.$
A tuned MAF and VE is oh so sweet , and a nice timing table is good to .
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Originally Posted by use2bfo
Your PCM requires NB sensors. Wideband is for tuning or reference to the layman. Some guys swear they can tune by the NB sensors just as accurately as a wideband. As for Innovate, I guess you get what you pay for. Honestly, I would trust the opinions of professional tuners rather than guys like me that just play with tunes. I would call on the larger shops or tuners that do 10 or more tunes a week and ask their opinion on which wideband to go with. I know the entry level Innovate LC1 was supposed to be troublesome. I have a FAST unit myself and since I only play with it I can't really give any opinion of its performance other than that it turns on when I tell it to and never misses a lick.
6000 HP and 4 second quarter , that's racing .
We are just shade tree Idiots that think we are fast .
JAW JAW .
Cheap and good .
Cool gadget,Id rather have one of those than what I have now.
One thing most people forget is , can the LSU be calibrated (free air calibration) , everyone agrees sensors degrade over time and you need to be able to recalibrate to compensate for the wear factor .
Some do , some don't , but get one that does and when the sensor is worn or not working at all the controller will let you know , unlike most non-calibration type controllers .
The JAW was a great find on PT.net , cheap and a true DIY .
Ive had my W/B hard wired into the truck for about 6 months now and fire it up now and then to check fuel and is still rite on w/HPTuners so far,Using the rear o2 bung since there nothing being used.Also have a narrow band gauge that is great for knowing that at least im rich at WOT.Its not very accurate but will let me know if Im going lean at 6000 rpm and get out of it.
The LC-1 , I have has been rock solid , Innovate did a re-design and made the LC-1 more idiot proof , thank God for me .
They just released a 1.10 update for the LC-1 controller that seemed to help some on warm up but made the response faster (set to 1/12 not immediate) , flashed mine works even better now .