Been calling Nelson and no one is there. Anybody know way?
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Been calling Nelson and no one is there. Anybody know way?
Busy people. Did you leave a message?
I'm not sure what you're name is, but i'm looking at the call list and i don't see anything referring to a radix, codes, etc, just 4 calls on the vm this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3DTIM
Two turbo questions, trans question and one with a name and number.
if you want a call back, you must leave a message and your # along with a description of the question/issue, if you did, please be patient and we'll call!
Somebody is always here, like always; if the phones go to vm, we're on the phone, if you keep calling and it's busy, we're on the phones.
We've only been open for 1 hr 45min this morning, we got stuff to do just like everyone else does and we'll definitely get to you!!!
thanks,
allen
just a quick suggestion, if someone else answers other than me, it's best to give them as much information as possible so they can help you, i'm rarely available for phone calls but my employees can come ask me questions and get your question answered immediately. erica may not be as technical as i am, but she is the first point of contact and it's best if you give her all the information so that i can be prepared when i speak with you, if i need to.
Called two times yesterday left name and number even the code numbers. Around 12.30 pm and then around 2.00pm. No big deal.Got a hold of them today and have a new tune on the way. The girl there is always very nice and she gets all the info. But I never seem to get past her. I must say she does a great job. It sure is nice to get a hold of a company that has people that know what they are doing and are nice. So many places now are so rude. Sorry if it sounded like I was mad I was not. Do like working with you guys and will be doing a lot more. Looks like I may have some Mustangs come to work on. And a lest one ZO6.
Thanks for letting Erica take care of the issue, she's much quicker at that stuff than i am, since i'm swamped!!
cam sensor is an input only senor, like most of them, so the pcm is detecting something is wrong with it. Maybe a wire cut or pulled during installation.
This next tune will take care of the egr code, we used a new file.
let me know,
allen
Thanks a lot.
Now does anybody know the numbers for the wires on the PCM for the cam sensor. Would save me a lot of time. Will pull the wires and check. If they check out OK then pull that new sensor and see if it is OK. Boy pulling that sensor is going to be a real pain.Also did you change the tire size to.
THANKS AGAIN ALLEN
I'll try to remember to post the wires and pinout, an easy test will tell you if the wires are good.
ya, i changed the tire size.
thanks again,
allen
Boy not looking forward to pulling that sensor. Put in new stuff and still have to pull it. Thanks to all that have helped on this it has been a long road but it has gotten me out of the house.
Well worked on the cam sensor all day today. Never did get it out looks like it is just under the chiller and I could not it out. But we did check the sensor and it looks to be good. Looks like the PCM is putting to much voltage to it. 11volts. So hopefully the new tune will clear that up. Thanks Allen for the pin call out.
Well still getting the cam code guess I will pull the blower back off and pull the sensor. What a pain.
Well had to pull the blower back off working by yourself is no fun. Left all the water line and anything I could still hooked up. Now on to checking the sensor I have a new one for it.
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OK now I am getting mad. three sensors and all show to be good. All show the same code Consecutively High. Plug is good and all wires are good. Anybody know what to do?????
Up date truck is done but not running right waiting on a new tune to get here. Thought I would post what the truck looks like. Right now it is high idle code put in a new one but it is still high 2300rpm. Checked for air leaks and could not find any.
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Boy I hope the tune makes it today!! Never go ground again the wait is killing me.
OK Tune "3" and guess what a new code. PO1336 Still idling high 2500rpm. Checked for air leaks pumped 15psi to it and found no leaks. The truck has been done a mouth and have not put one mile on it. Not Happy right now not at all.
That code is normal, it's the pcm complaining about needing a ckp relearn, but that's not what's causing the idle issue.
Just to recap and keep those who don't know updated:
pcm 1: tuned what i was supposed to tune for
pcm 2: reloaded same tune just to be sure it wasn't a bad upload
pcm 3: completely different calibration just to be sure it wasn't the cal.
similar issues with all pcm's, so let me know if there's anything else you'd like to try.
just a thought- is your throttle blade closing completely? maybe it is hung open.
I could here air come out of it when I put air to the manifold. But it looked to be good.
With a good scan tool, you can check to see what commaned idle is, i know it's not 3000rpms, so since it's actually idling higher, see if it's cracked open a bit, even just a slight degree open will cause a high idle.
did you change the tb during this swap?
do you have another truck to swap out tb's with?
Same TB the other one is a wire one so that is no good. I will get back out there first thing and get a real close look at the TB. If it is open how would I adjust it?. I am open to anything.
Post up some pics of the vac hoses and where they are routed?
also, check the back of the charger, there are a few ports back there.
Three lines back there. Brake Booster PVC and one that goes to the black valve on the side of the blower the valve with the yellow sticker on it. I put the air line into the brake booster line to feed air in to see if I had any leaks. All were good.
I am like you keep thinking air but for the life of me I can not find it. Way is every PCM coming up with a different code?
get a Benz-o-matic torch. start the truck and let it idle. open the nozzle on the torch but dont light it. now go around entire intake manifold and tb and any vaccum port with this. if the RPMs change then you sir have a leak
also you should be able to hear such a huge vaccum leak if indeed you have a vaccum leak
is it possible your throttle cable is bind'd up and is allowing the TB to be open?
TB cable is free. Benz-o-matic torch is one I never herd
Ive aways heard brake clean or carb cleaner.
never a fan of spraying a flamable liquid on a hot running motorQuote:
Originally Posted by WARLOCK
Did the brake cleaner and carb just did the Benz-o-matic torch no change in idle. Pulled the brake booster line of and plugged it to see if there was a leak there no good.
for shits and giggles. remove the throttle cable off the throttle blade totally. start truck up see if it idles normal
also is your IAC leaking air ?
Did not help. IAC is new. Put my finger up in there were the IAC goes from the inside of the TB and it seems to be setting. Going back out and try something. It has pulled two quarts of oil through it so I am thinking the PVC may be stuck open. One letting it pull oil out two letting air in all the time and may be my leak. And that is the only line I have not pulled today. Back at itQuote:
Originally Posted by Quik
remove every vac line from the charger and plug it. the same with the throttle body.
there might be a hose going from the charger to the intake tube or something similar causing a vac leak.
OK Just pulled the PVC no help.
OK pulled all lines even the gauge line plugged all of them same thing. Runs fine for around 30seconds and the goes up to 2000-2500
No way to get to the muffler shop and have new stuff put on. Could this be the problem? No Cat's on it and no mufflers just about 3' of pipe off the headers. Do have the o2 sensors in place.
Would it be worth my time and money to get a HP Tuner?
Hey Tim, I saw you called today, I'm still out, just checking email and the forum remotely.
There's probably an issue somewhere that is being overlooked, something mechanical or electrical.
If you spend more money and get hptuners, all you're going to find out is that the idle is still set at 600rpms in the calibration and that still wont' fix it.
I know the PCM is the first thing to blame, because it's the least understood.
The pcm is rather simple. The pcm takes in data from sensors, all sensors are inputs, meaning they don't control anything. Things like iac, injectors, egr do things based on input from the sensors, after the pcm calculates what these mechanical devices should do.
The pcm is set to idle at 600rpms. The pcm will have no other reason to idle the engine at 3000rpms, unless there is a bad input.
Or, if there is something physically or mechanically causing the high idle.
ie. vac leak, open throttle blade, bad iac, etc.
Now there could be a bad pcm or an issue with the calibration, but we've tried two different pcms with still the same issue, a high idle. Boith pcms have two different 80e cals.
The iac is told what to do by the pcm, so the iac adjusts idle.
See if the iac is stuck or maybe the park position of the iac is wide open.
Maybe try another throttle body.
Something is causing the iac to hang wide open, the throttle body to stick, or air entering the engine unmetered (but that last example usually surges as well).
If you have a scanner you can check to see what the tps% is at.
It should read 0%.
A good scan tool will show desired and commanded idle, can you get that info?
You mentioned that the engine has already sucked down 2 qts of oil, how long of a period was that?
What did you do to get idle to go down to 2000rpms?
The only other thing I can do as far as tuning is, send you a stock 6L / 80e pcm with only the injectors scaled for, so it will idle (of course there will be codes)
let me know,
allen
This PCM is what has got the idle down. Friday night I will get my hands on a good scanner and a scope. I will see if I can come up with a TB don't know about that. TBS is at 0% at idle checked that last time.Looked at the IAC it is new and put my finger up in the hole from inside the TB and it looked to be fully sealed. I will be on the road tomorrow and see if I can find a TB and get a set on GM intake gasket's again. I flat have to get this truck going soon or I am going to have to pull the blower off. The oil was over the last mouth. At idle I am pulling 20pis of vac.
There is a small hole drilled in the TB blade could this be the trouble?
Come on Allen!!! This is the same thing my truck was doing. You sent me a retune with the IAC tables modified. You made changes to make the IAC valve close faster.
At least this is what you/employees told me. But, it worked so try and remember what you did and do it for this guy.
Here's the message you sent me Allen:
"is the idle any better now? if not, we can lower some tables and not allow the iac to hang so much, i was gonna say the ported tb, but you tried a stock one and did the same thing.
email melissa and request a retune, ask to have the iac idle air table lowered, tell her idle is hanging too long."