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...how cam specs affect torque and hp?
I ask because I'm still perturbed about my track times (best of 15.08). I'm wondering if my cam (specs in sig) are giving me more top end and costing me torque?
Is there a cam I'd be better off with to improve 1/4 mile times without killing mid-top end?
well the 116 lsa isn't helping you at all for lowend tq. thats for sure, try finding a cam with the stock 114 lsa and you will see your times come down, charlie wheatly put in a 212 218 581 581 114 cam in his 4 door truck and full weight went same time as you, and that is cam and tune only, good luck.
hey Moze what was your race weight and your 60ft times??
That cam you have looks similar to a Procharger spec.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(vv8 @ Dec 11 2006, 09:31 PM) [snapback]76059[/snapback]</div>Thanks man...a couple other guys said the same thing. They even recommended a 112 or 110. Maybe my int/exh duration is too high too. Thanks again.Quote:
well the 116 lsa isn't helping you at all for lowend tq. thats for sure, try finding a cam with the stock 114 lsa and you will see your times come down, charlie wheatly put in a 212 218 581 581 114 cam in his 4 door truck and full weight went same time as you, and that is cam and tune only, good luck.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TxStVanWilder @ Dec 12 2006, 09:22 AM) [snapback]76090[/snapback]</div>Race weight was 210 pounds, but that was because of that burger you made me get.Quote:
hey Moze what was your race weight and your 60ft times??
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Kidding...not sure what the truck weighs. My best 60' was 2.24.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SCIV @ Dec 12 2006, 09:53 AM) [snapback]76098[/snapback]</div>Quote:
That cam you have looks similar to a Procharger spec.
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Yeah I've been told it's similar to a blower cam. Starting to think I need something with a 112 or 110 LSA and a tighter duration.
lowest i would go is 112.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TXsilverado @ Dec 12 2006, 08:05 PM) [snapback]76160[/snapback]</div>Quote:
lowest i would go is 112.
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Reason being? I don't know cams as well as most, so any explanations for reasons given are highly appreciated! :thumb:
110 will make the idle worse, and maybe bring the power band too low. beau has a small cam on a 110 lsa and it has amazing low end, but falls off up top.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TXsilverado @ Dec 12 2006, 08:15 PM) [snapback]76166[/snapback]</div>Falls off because of the LSA?Quote:
110 will make the idle worse, and maybe bring the power band too low. beau has a small cam on a 110 lsa and it has amazing low end, but falls off up top.
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The wider the LSA the broader/flatter the power band (generally); the narrower the LSA the more peaky the powerband is. Comparing two cams with identical lobes, if one cam is ground on a 114-degree LSA then it will have a flatter power band from idle to beyond redline but not as exciting; a 110-degree LSA will have fair low-end power and an explosive midrange pull then quickly run out of steam on the top-end. Also, the wider LSA (114-degree) will idle far better than the narrow LSA (110-degree) and have better vacuum and street manners; having a wider LSA kind of waters down the rowdiness of the cam. If you are running a blower or turbo you will want a wider LSA to prevent valve overlap from leaking boost out the exhaust pipe.
Mr. P.
Damn only 15.08?? I know i will run faster then that when i actually can get to a track now that i have my new cam in. I ran a 15.2 before the cam.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mister P @ Dec 13 2006, 01:53 AM) [snapback]76187[/snapback]</div>Quote:
The wider the LSA the broader/flatter the power band (generally); the narrower the LSA the more peaky the powerband is. Comparing two cams with identical lobes, if one cam is ground on a 114-degree LSA then it will have a flatter power band from idle to beyond redline but not as exciting; a 110-degree LSA will have fair low-end power and an explosive midrange pull then quickly run out of steam on the top-end. Also, the wider LSA (114-degree) will idle far better than the narrow LSA (110-degree) and have better vacuum and street manners; having a wider LSA kind of waters down the rowdiness of the cam. If you are running a blower or turbo you will want a wider LSA to prevent valve overlap from leaking boost out the exhaust pipe.
Mr. P.
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Good info - thank you! :hshake:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(shwarmy @ Dec 13 2006, 09:06 AM) [snapback]76198[/snapback]</div>Quote:
Damn only 15.08?? I know i will run faster then that when i actually can get to a track now that i have my new cam in. I ran a 15.2 before the cam.
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See, it's stuff like that that makes me thing something isn't right. You've got the 93 tune, whereas I have the 89, but I've also got headers and a converter.
I'm stumped.
And again, I never got this tuned (in person anyway) after the header and converter install, so maybe that has something to do with it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DamnYankee @ Dec 13 2006, 06:13 PM) [snapback]76245[/snapback]</div>I see you are a Nelson customer (in your sig); I would encourage you to make a follow-up appointment.Quote:
Good info - thank you! :hshake:
See, it's stuff like that that makes me thing something isn't right. You've got the 93 tune, whereas I have the 89, but I've also got headers and a converter.
I'm stumped.
And again, I never got this tuned (in person anyway) after the header and converter install, so maybe that has something to do with it.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mister P @ Dec 13 2006, 09:10 PM) [snapback]76263[/snapback]</div>Yeah, I probably need to. He sent me a new tune via mail, but I think an in-person would help.Quote:
I see you are a Nelson customer (in your sig); I would encourage you to make a follow-up appointment.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DamnYankee @ Dec 13 2006, 09:33 PM) [snapback]76266[/snapback]</div>I whole heartedly agree. That and you need to come down so you can run at SAR with us. the 19th sounds inviting doesnt it moze? :thumb:Quote:
Yeah, I probably need to. He sent me a new tune via mail, but I think an in-person would help.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(duckysbht @ Dec 14 2006, 11:00 AM) [snapback]76316[/snapback]</div>It does sound good, except I'll be in Atlanta. One of these days...Quote:
I whole heartedly agree. That and you need to come down so you can run at SAR with us. the 19th sounds inviting doesnt it moze? :thumb:
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