idle of a comp 224 in a LS1

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08-09-2006, 01:54 PM
TXsilverado

looking at cams for the 5.7 ls1 im hopefully getting. im really leaning towards a comp 224/224 .581/.581 112. its basically the same as the tr224 but with higher lift and more agressive lobes(xer lobes). i need it to idle pretty close to stock without any surging etc. this sound clip of a tr224 scared me away from the cam. i dont want it to have to search for an idle on startup or when coming to a stop. is it possible to tune it to my needs? i know people are running the tr224 on 5.3's and they lope pretty damn hard, i figured the 5.7 would eat up the cam more and make it sound more tame. this car dosent sound tame at all

http://www.ls1sounds.com/borlamouth/borlam...a_billsride.avi
08-09-2006, 01:57 PM
chrisj6

Yeah itll sound nice on the ls1! Keep in mind that is probably an untuned 224 cam, sounded like they had a hard time getting it goin.
08-09-2006, 02:24 PM
TXsilverado

yeah i know it will sound nice, but i dont want a race car sound lol. a little lope aint bad, but if the truck is rockin the ol man will freak lol
08-09-2006, 02:46 PM
NITROUS

I'm running a 220/220 581/581 @ 115. It sounds stock but pulls like an SOB. You can purchase this cam at MTI in Houston with hardened pushrods, Manley springs and titanium reatiners for a little over $700.00
08-09-2006, 03:02 PM
SCIV

look up mine for the TR224 in my 6.0
08-09-2006, 05:46 PM
TxStVanWilder

THAT SOUNDS SICK!!!!!! :rock:
08-09-2006, 08:41 PM
TXsilverado

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SCIV @ Aug 9 2006, 02:02 PM) [snapback]60578[/snapback]</div>

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look up mine for the TR224 in my 6.0
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???wheres it at???
08-09-2006, 09:57 PM
Defunct SO

With a tune, it will start and idle fine. I had the TR224 112 cam, but traded it for a 228/232 .588 .595 110+1. I bet I have a little lope. :rock:
I'm thinking that cam, a little head work, 4:10s, I have a 3600 Vig, and a 150 shot. That should make my rc step side scoot!!
08-09-2006, 10:15 PM
farmtruc

vv8 has a pretty stout cam in his 5.3L, his idles just fine last time he was down here.
for the ls1, i'd do a 232 cam, with a decent stall. it'll idle around 800 and drive just fine, we tune them all the time here.
the ls1 can take a bit more cam the truck engine and responds very well!
good luck,
allen
08-09-2006, 10:32 PM
TXsilverado

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(farmtruc @ Aug 9 2006, 10:15 PM) [snapback]60671[/snapback]</div>

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vv8 has a pretty stout cam in his 5.3L, his idles just fine last time he was down here.
for the ls1, i'd do a 232 cam, with a decent stall. it'll idle around 800 and drive just fine, we tune them all the time here.
the ls1 can take a bit more cam the truck engine and responds very well!
good luck,
allen
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doh....your putting evil thoughts in my head! the LS1 is still guna have the truck intake on it so i think ill stick with the 224/224 .581 .581 on a 112lsa. then i wont have to be in a hurry to swap out my 2600 torque converter for something bigger. kevins truck seems extreemly tame for the size cam he has in that 5.3. if you can make my motor sound atleast as tame as his i would be happy. you think you could tune my idle down like his with this cam in the 5.7? all of the sound clips in camaros make the tr224 sound crazy :eek:

oh, and i still plan on going for a 13.5 1/4 mile in the stock cammed 5.3 before i start this project :rock:
08-10-2006, 07:52 AM
SCIV

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TXsilverado @ Aug 9 2006, 08:41 PM) [snapback]60659[/snapback]</div>

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???wheres it at???
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224 in 6.0
08-10-2006, 01:00 PM
TXsilverado

whats your exhaust setup? mine definately cant be that choppy lol...is the camera exadurating it any?
08-10-2006, 01:02 PM
SCIV

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whats your exhaust setup? mine definately cant be that choppy lol...is the camera exadurating it any?
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No, that is how it sounded. I was running a Flo-Pro muffler at that time. Why can't it be choppy for you?
08-10-2006, 02:34 PM
TXsilverado

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SCIV @ Aug 10 2006, 01:02 PM) [snapback]60731[/snapback]</div>

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No, that is how it sounded. I was running a Flo-Pro muffler at that time. Why can't it be choppy for you?
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the old man will freak if he even knew i was doing a motor swap much less a cam swap too. mine aughta be alot quieter with the corsa and 18" bullet. here is a sound clip of rgv sierras lq9 with a tr224 112

http://video.ls1tech.com/video/f0eb2d7b-f0...81900ed1899.htm

first things first....gotta get the motor :laugh:
08-11-2006, 09:20 AM
Defunct SO

You may need to give your "old man" a little more credit. You can have whisper quiet exhaust and still easily be able to tell there is a cam.
08-11-2006, 11:00 AM
farmtruc

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TXsilverado @ Aug 9 2006, 01:24 PM) [snapback]60572[/snapback]</div>

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yeah i know it will sound nice, but i dont want a race car sound lol. a little lope aint bad, but if the truck is rockin the ol man will freak lol
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Here's a quick vid of that GTO we finished a while back.
It has a 248cam, 408, heads, pretty much everything you can think of.
It's Speed Density tuned and hauls ass!!
This is a vid of a cold start up first thing in the morning:
Cold start

Here is a vid after the cold start to show how radical it is, which it isn't at all.
This car had to be perfect, it's a daily driver.
Idle quality

Here's a shot under the hood:
08-11-2006, 11:55 AM
SCIV

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(farmtruc @ Aug 11 2006, 11:00 AM) [snapback]60829[/snapback]</div>

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Here's a quick vid of that GTO we finished a while back.
It has a 248cam, 408, heads, pretty much everything you can think of.
It's Speed Density tuned and hauls ass!!
This is a vid of a cold start up first thing in the morning:
Cold start

Here is a vid after the cold start to show how radical it is, which it isn't at all.
This car had to be perfect, it's a daily driver.
Idle quality

Here's a shot under the hood:
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I love the plates...Stroked.
08-13-2006, 08:53 PM
vicred4.8

Here is a clip of my tr224 114 LSA. It searches a little at first, but thats only because the truck hasnt been started in over a week. Stock Manifolds, no cats, and a magnaflow muff.

idle clip
08-13-2006, 09:37 PM
xlr82sxs

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(vicred4.8 @ Aug 13 2006, 07:53 PM) [snapback]61103[/snapback]</div>

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Here is a clip of my tr224 114 LSA. It searches a little at first, but thats only because the truck hasnt been started in over a week. Stock Manifolds, no cats, and a magnaflow muff.

idle clip
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that sounds wicked! i love it.. is that coming from a 4.8?
08-13-2006, 09:43 PM
vicred4.8

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that sounds wicked! i love it.. is that coming from a 4.8?
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Thanbks man, No its from an LS1. Never got around to changing my SN.

Allen if you read this can you change my name to VICRED ?
08-13-2006, 09:51 PM
xlr82sxs

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(vicred4.8 @ Aug 13 2006, 08:43 PM) [snapback]61110[/snapback]</div>

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Thanbks man, No its from an LS1. Never got around to changing my SN.

Allen if you read this can you change my name to VICRED ?
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good! i was a little jealous and wondered why my 5 3 wasn't putting out like that. :drool:
08-13-2006, 11:38 PM
TXsilverado

thanks for the clip vic. i coulda sworn you had a 216/220 on a 114 in that ls1 of yours. is this the cam your running right now or have you changed since then? looks like a 114 lsa is what im looking for idle wise...i just know i need that 112 cuz of the weight.
08-14-2006, 07:11 AM
vicred4.8

Ive always had the tr224