Thinking about building the ultimate sleeper

In my home town area there are hundreds of people who on Weekends cruise their vehicles and run on the streets. Most are very lame ricer builds and crapstangs. Very few will run faster than 14s. I have been thinking about an idea for a long time now. Basically an ugly build that looks completely stock. Even when you open the hood 99% of people won't know what's going on underneath.

NBS RCSB 4x4 GM truck 4.8/5.3. $4000
6.0/80e $1800 complete with factor engine cover
Cam/valvetrain rebuild $1200
Stall$1000
Mild trans rebuild $500
AWD swap $1200
200 shot of Spray via tapped throttlebody spacer $800
Fuel upgrades $1000
Rear locker/gears $1000
Stock 16s widened to accommodate slightly wider rear tires. $300
Drag radials on all 4 tires $1000

My idea is to hustle for a little cash. Everything will be really well hidden and appear very stock. Even the cam/tune/exhaust will be setup to appear tame/quiet at idle. The hope is to use a newer truck to run similar to the farm truck. I don't expect it to be a money maker, but just something I can have some fun with and surprise some people. I would expect mid 12s on the spray and low 13s NA, but something that on the street will fly under the radar while smoking some ricers and wannabes. The stance paint wheels body work headlights and even the interior will look very stock everything aftermarket will be hidden as well as possible. All GO and zero show. Thoughts?

I would expect it to look about like this....
http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/...ps779a4a0b.jpg

What part of Utah do you live in?

I live in orem Utah during the school year and all over the country during the summer but I call mesa AZ home.

Why widen wheels on awd?

Why use a tapped spacer?

s-10 with camper shell, 6.0l/4l80, locker, and same 200 pill.

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Originally Posted by pl4yboy

Why widen wheels on awd?

Why use a tapped spacer?

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Widened in order to get more traction on the street on a stock suspension.
Tapped spacer for the sleeper effect. Most people will see and hear yeah its got a throttle body spacer and pay it less attention than an actual plate nitrous kit.

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Originally Posted by blacstar

s-10 with camper shell, 6.0l/4l80, locker, and same 200 pill.

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Seems like a great idea, but a fast V8 S10 raises more suspicion than a Silverado that comes with a V8 factory. Also people know that a V8 s10 can be fast, but V8 Silverados are a dime a dozen around here.

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Originally Posted by kerrige

Widened in order to get more traction on the street on a stock suspension.
Tapped spacer for the sleeper effect. Most people will see and hear yeah its got a throttle body spacer and pay it less attention than an actual plate nitrous kit.

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You said widen rear wheels... why widen the rears on an awd? You arent thinking.

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Originally Posted by pl4yboy

You said widen rear wheels... why widen the rears on an awd? You arent thinking.

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I am assuming even with AWD I will most likely struggle with traction on the street. Also I figure most drag radials won't fit a stock width wheel.

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Originally Posted by kerrige

I am assuming even with AWD I will most likely struggle with traction on the street. Also I figure most drag radials won't fit a stock width wheel.

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Itll be fine you shouldnt have a problem, also just get a plate and turn it upside down and say its a tb spacer. I've got DRs on all 4 also but they're 20s.

Hmmm sounds like a plan. I like the idea of just turning it upside down, but it seems like the throttlebody spacer is a nice little cherry on top.

I guess I'm just asking why a bigger tire on the rear in an awd...there isn't a huge size selection of drs so how are you going to find two that are the same height, but the rears wider?

I see what your saying now. I guess I could widen the fronts and rears, but we will see how it does with stock width wheels. This is still only a fun idea right now.

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Originally Posted by kerrige

I see what your saying now. I guess I could widen the fronts and rears, but we will see how it does with stock width wheels. This is still only a fun idea right now.

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And I was just screwing with you

Look at Garrisons nitrous setup. That, in a stock manifold, under a stock engine cover would be incredibly easy to hide. Costs a hell of a lot more though.

Also, rule one of a sleeper. Never pop the hood. Rule two. Never win by anymore than a length.

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Originally Posted by Frenchy

Look at Garrisons nitrous setup. That, in a stock manifold, under a stock engine cover would be incredibly easy to hide. Costs a hell of a lot more though.

Also, rule one of a sleeper. Never pop the hood. Rule two. Never win by anymore than a length.

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True story. Rule three The difference between winning and losing can be a second stage.

Just get some cheap, ugly ass wheels.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...ps422ddc9a.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...ps3aecc0ec.jpg
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Run solenoids under the intake and there ya go hidden badass nitrous system.

nice setup bro

I've got an ole beat up 87 4x4 suburban that I'm seriously considering a sprayed 408 with a th400 and dropping the t-case. But that is on hold until we get moved into the new house.

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Originally Posted by EL SRG

nice setup bro

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thanks

Needs to be long bed with crooked dual exhaust and grandpa tube steps and an eagle/wolf mural in the rear window.

And absolutely no need for DR's, that'd completely kill the sleeper effect and you should still be able to cut 1.7x's consistent on street tires. And keep it 4wd so you can do cheesy pickup truck brake torque burnouts and make fools think you can't hook on the street. I do it all the time, then click in to 4hi and leave them spinning at the line.

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Originally Posted by ShredSled

Needs to be long bed with crooked dual exhaust and grandpa tube steps and an eagle/wolf mural in the rear window.

And absolutely no need for DR's, that'd completely kill the sleeper effect and you should still be able to cut 1.7x's consistent on street tires. And keep it 4wd so you can do cheesy pickup truck brake torque burnouts and make fools think you can't hook on the street. I do it all the time, then click in to 4hi and leave them spinning at the line.

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Exactly...and forget the 6.0. Do a 408 and have the 317 heads ported since nothing external will give it away and it will eat up the lope of a fairly large cam nicely. Could be a mid 12 second truck on motor.

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Originally Posted by ss454327

Exactly...and forget the 6.0. Do a 408 and have the 317 heads ported since nothing external will give it away and it will eat up the lope of a fairly large cam nicely. Could be a mid 12 second truck on motor.

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I'm mid 12 sec on street tires and factory 20s with just a 6.0 with cam and crappy mild ported 241's. With a 408 I'd be shooting for 11's for sure!

Doing a 408 would blow the budget up dramatically. A forged 408 would cost 3-4k more than the 6.0 and keeping it a 6.0 allows me to honestly say its a factory motor. I am not looking to go all out this is more of something for messing with people. Especially the ricer scene and programmer only diesel boys. I might look at some long beds because they are cheaper to buy and add to the sleeper effect. However, I am pretty set on running AWD. I don't want to mess with getting it in and out of 4wd safely and binding thru turns. I know even a 12 or 13 second truck will ruin most vehicles in AZ. While a hotrod scene is huge the majority of people I would be picking on would be near stock Subaru's, fart can Hondas, occational mustangs, and diesel boys. The scene is very different in Phoenix. Scary fast big money cars exist, but very very few people are running in the 11-13 sec range. Track days are generally 2 groups 9sec and faster or 14secs or slower. This is going to be purpose built vehicle with the intentions of being a sneaky sleeper with big surprise factor. Like French mentioned I won't be beating most people by more than 1 or 2 lengths.

So my thought on a cam is along the lines of a 224/228 LSA114 keep the idle smooth and quiet. Along with a very large magna flow or 2 even. Also I am contemplating where to place the bottle activation switch and which engine cover would hide the spray the best.

My N2O switches, were inside my glovebox. That little compartment to the left. Had my bottle heater and arming switches in there. Then my WOT/window switch was on the bottom of the fusebox lid. No engine cover, so you could see my solenoids and lines and the plate. But the electronics, especially inside the cab were hidden. More for reasons based on the legality of N2O in Ontario and our Gestapo-esque police force than the sleeper effect.

Now I just don't care. Ryan got me a deal on the NX switch panel that goes in the slot where the 4wd selector switch would be if my truck was gay. Needed room for other switches, 2 step, meth etc.

If the center console and cupholder area is the same as my 04, the whole cupholder panel comes up pretty easy, would be a nice discreet are for switches.

you think its its possible to put a bottle inside a center console?

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Originally Posted by SNEEKY

you think its its possible to put a bottle inside a center console?

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Not without butchering the center console. I have seen it done with cutting and remolding the plastics.

I'm thinking you might lose the storage bin too

Old setup
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...Picture099.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...s/10061615.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...0405002253.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...0406002131.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...0406002129.jpg

Youd be surprised how many people never noticed.

I am considering a behind the seat setup with a large "sub box" that would have a bottle hiding inside and a functioning sub. Another idea I have had is to put two large bottles in a diamond plate tool box in the bed.

Mine have been moved to the bed 2 15lb bottles arent easy to hide lol

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Originally Posted by Botlfed

Old setup
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...Picture099.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...s/10061615.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...0405002253.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...0406002131.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...0406002129.jpg

Youd be surprised how many people never noticed.

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Dude you are my hero lol!!

Fwiw I removed the foam as one piece so once I took tge bottles out it all went back together like stock.

Figured id dig this back up soooo someone would start getting his shit going ;)