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So I went and visited a Holden dealer today, and holy crap they make some sweet cars! If GM would build these here they would sell like hot cakes. Who doesn't want an LS2 or LS3 powered ute, station wagon, or family sedan?
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Id drive the hell outta the white one in the last pic!
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Me and you both!!! looks just like a G8 (which i guess it kinda is)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ls2Aero
Man those cars look awesome!!! Hope you having fun on your trip bro.
Nice, I like the wagon.
I've always like the "el camino", Ute. I'd take one of those, kind of heavy though, surprisingly.
I'm sure GM had their reasons, but I haven't spoken to one Pontiac GTO or GxP owner that thought it was a good idea to drop'm.
oh well.
The wagon is really nice.
I agree with the statement that GM should sell something similar in the states. GM does have the CTSV that is along these lines but is too pricey for most. I think that GM should bring back the GTO/GXP style.
Thats what i was gonna say, gm does have a badass sedan and wagon, its the ctsv. But theres to many european sedans that have been cornering the market for so long, im sure if gm starts selling more of their sedans theyll start bringing more out, remember 50% of gm's sales come from the silverado :thumb:
That El Co is bada$$
that wagon is the shizz. i would rock that sucker any time!
They really are some sweet cars. Heres a few more shots. http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/DSCN0815.jpg
Holden's Version of a Colorado
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Okay I think its time to start a movement to bring Holden to the US!!!
If GM wasn't ran by a bunch of greedy morons, they would have one, maybe two labels, instead of how ever many they have/had. I still see no reason for as many brands as there use to be...Make them all chevy's and cadillacs like fords and lincolns and be done with it. Then we wouldn't be without badass cars like the g8, they could afford to build and produce the el camino looking car. They could produce an affordable stylish wagon like the one pictured or like the cts-v wagon
Is there really a need for GMC? Sierra and Silverado..exactly the same
Yukon and Tahoe...exactly the same
Denali and Escalade...close enough not to need two different brands
Trailblazer and whatever the gmc equivalent is...Same thing
etc etc...
Dump the duplicates and build affordable badass cars under one brand
Sorry for the rant
the only thing this post is accomplishing, is pissing us off,
ban him!!!!
Im with you, I think we either need to start importing Holdens (wonder how hard it would be to open a dealership here) or somehow convince GM to start producing those, or similar vehicles in the US, because there is a definite market for them. The dealer couldn't believe me when I told him we had nothing like the ute back home.
that whit el camino style is sick...is it possible to buy one and get it over here?
I believe you can, not for sure though. I was looking at shipping costs last night and it would be around $2k to have it shipped over, so not terrible. Now I just have to find the $30 grand to get the truck itself. I would even leave it right hand drive once I got it here :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by CHEVROLADE
The problem with getting vehicle's imported to the US is that they have to be able to pass all of our safety and emissions standards before hand.
Australia is EXTREMELY strict on that kind of stuff but I'm sure there's something that restricts the importation of Holdens since you never see them on the road around here.Quote:
Originally Posted by kerrige
Or a Vauxhall from the UK
http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/microsite/...r8/index.shtml
Bad ass stuff for sure.
Good points and good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by phantom405
as far as GMC and Chevy goes they there are duplicates and could be combined into one company. The problem with making Holden into Chevy is there would be a huge uproar in Australia. The Holden's arnt re-badged GM Cars They are HOLDENS, they made the commodore (G8) and the Ute (the el camino). All of there older cars were designed by Australians and alot of there motors were different. Back in the day they didnt have Chevy Nova's with a different front clip to make it something else they had their own line Like the Torana and Manaro, both having Ute versions. They had L92 heads way before us and they are passionate about cars. I do think that they should sell Holdens over here and it would be fine to relabel them but trying to turn their Holden into Chevy would be a monstrosity. Also to be fair if you combined Chevy and GMC you would lose customers so why get rid of a good thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by phantom405
Also as far as importing a new holden it wouldn't be hard. There are some in the states its just hard to justify spending all that extra money on shipping not to mention what it takes to get registered and titled (ask me how i know). I will be buying a 71 Torana at some point in my life and having it shipped over, they are beautiful cars and well worth the effort IMO. Im a holden fan for sure.
Because they're motherfuckin broke that's why! When most people go into debt, they have to consolidate to get out of it...But not a huge corporation like GM...They just took OUR money to pay off THEIR debt. I realize that didn't happen over night, but after years and year of manufacturing literally the same product under a different name, it finally took its toll. But you are right. GM is "smart" and will keep GMC(or chevy) because they know there are enough stupid people that will continue to buy one instead of the other for personal reasons and if that particular brand didn't exist they may just go with ford or dodge or...I'm a GM fan to the death but, DAMN.Quote:
Originally Posted by 408.Luke
:argg: the grease is getting hotter :LOL:
Man...I really did start a fire :eek:
Luke, if you don't mind my asking, about what does it cost to bring a car over? I would love to have a Maloo some day.
No body is happy they took our money, although to be fair it would just be wasted on something else if they haddent spent it on GM BUT i would have rather seen them go bankrupt, then they could have reformed and gotten rid of all the Unions and other non necessities. Also i dont see cutting GMC is really consolidating when they are rolling out of the same factory, not to mention there are differences in the GMC and Chevy line up not much but some and its still doesent change the fact that if GM gets rid of GMC they will lose customer to Ford and "Ram" since dodge doesn't make a truck anymore. They did make some good cuts like Hummer Saturn and maybe saab? I dont know if they are still around and i hope they arnt. I know in the states we have Chevy, GMC, Buick, and Cadillac. Thats really not bad seeing as Buick is a huge seller over seas and GMC truck sales are good at a little under 1/2 of how may Chevys are sold So why cut something that makes good money or do you just want to bail GM out again?Quote:
Originally Posted by phantom405
Ok to Ship a car over you are looking at shipping, a auto broker (to take care of paper work and delivery), Import fee, Tax, Tittle and license, and a inspection is basically all the cost. Shipping something from Australia wont be like when i had the mini shipped from the UK, that was cheap because 1 it didnt have to go through panama and 2 it is a small car and could fit in a small shipping container. I paid 1k to get it to Galveston and would have cost me 1500 to get it to Cali meaning it would have go through the Panama canal. Now bringing something in from Australia it will have to go through the Panama Canal unless you want to pick it up in cali but i wouldn't suggest driving it home id trailer it. That gets it to the states so lets just say it will cost an extra 1k to get it to Galveston so your looking at 2500$ then there is a 2.5% import fee/tax which has to be paid before you pick the car up along with some other port fee (cant remember what its called), This is where the broker comes in, they paid the import fee and port fee for me and took care of all the paper work, they sent me the necessary forms that i had to fill out and they did the rest. The day i went to pick the car up i stopped by the broker and paid for there services and they gave me the paper work i needed to pick the car up and also put me in contact with a escort because i dont have TWIC card. After you get the car then you have to have it inspected. If its a OBD II car or old like mine its easy because they just scan a obdII car and mine was just a safety inspection. After this you must have a theft forum filled out (i will have to look back for the forum number and name) but all i had to do was take it to Harris county sheriff auto theft precinct thingy up in spring off Jones road and he checked the vin number with the vin number on the UK title. Once that was done took all this to the tax office and said i bought this car and need it registered/Texas tittle. I paid for registration and tax on the car i think 5%? what ever normal car tax in Texas is. I got my plates immediately along with registration sticker and my title showed up 3 weeks latter. If you live in Harris county i HIGHLY suggest going to the down town tax office. There is never a wait over 5 minutes and the ladies there are way better at their job then the ones on Clay Road who have no idea which was is up or down let alone have to register a foreign car.... any way boom bada bing your done! If i had gone to the down town tax office first and knew about the theft forum i could have gotten the car, inspection, theft check, and registered in a day easy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Slammed96
Saw one of the el camino ones on Craigslist a few months back. Def cool looking cars